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I am surprised not to have noticed anything here on the police
attack on Critical Mass outlined in various places, including https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/324919.html and http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/324763.html ================================================== ================= Metropolitan Police Service CO11 Public Order Branch New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW11 OBG Your reference: - Our reference: - Date: 29/09/2005 Critical Mass Cycle Demonstrations Organisers of public processions are required by law to notify police at least 6 days before the event occurs of the date, time, proposed route and the name and address of an organiser. Failure to do so makes the event unlawful Demonstrations within a designated area around Parliament must also be notified, and anyone taking part in an unauthorised demonstration commits an offence. Police can impose conditions on processions, demonstrations and other assemblies, and participants render themselves liable to arrest if they fail to comply with those conditions. These cycle protests are not lawful because no organiser has provided police the with the necessary notification. Your participation in this event could render you liable to prosecution. Police policy in facilitating these events is currently under review. If you intend to organise a future similar event please refer to the Metropolitan Police website, www.met.police.uk for details. It is preferable for all parties if a lawful event can be safely facilitated, rather than the Police having to enforce legislation. ================================================== ================= That crap from the police has produced at least one response from a member of the London Assembly. http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/325044.html ================================================== ================= Sir Ian Blair Metropolitan Police Commissioner New Scotland Yard Tower Block N5Y Dear Ian, Critical Mass Bike Ride I am writing to outline my concerns about plans to label the Critical Mass Bike Ride as a demonstration and therefore require it to have permission from the police as well as permission to travel through the restriction zone around Parliament. 1) Many people do not see Critical Mass as a demonstration, but more like a hundred people getting on the same train at London Bridge. 2) According to the public order branch of the MPS, Critical Mass would not meet the definition of demonstration set out by the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005. The bill requires that the protest is static and has a political message. 3) Critical Mass has operated peacefully in this country for 11 years. There is nothing to suggest that this is likely to change and the heavy-handed application of the Serious Organised Crime Act and other legislation is surely unnecessary. 4) Given the fact that Critical Mass has been happening for so long it may be the case that it does not need permission under the Serious Organised Crime Act. 5) Operational issues may arise in attempting to arrest attendees at Critical Mass. How will the police distinguish between ordinary commuters who are going about their business and those who are attending Critical Mass? 6) I shall be attending the next Critical Mass as a direct response to attempts by police to ‘crack down’ on it. I can only imagine that dozens of other Londoners will feel similarly obliged to stand up for their right to cycle around London. I urge you to review this situation and allow Critical Mass to go ahead unimpeded. Jenny Jones Green Party Member of the London Assembly Mayor’s Road Safety Ambassador Member of the Metropolitan Police Authority ================================================== ================= Are the police born stupid, or is it a talent they develop over the years? -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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![]() "David Hansen" wrote in message ... Are the police born stupid, or is it a talent they develop over the years? Perhaps they'll round up all the motorists in the daily rush hour traffic jams on the M25.... Cheers, helen s |
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![]() "wafflycat" waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk wrote in message ... "David Hansen" wrote in message ... Are the police born stupid, or is it a talent they develop over the years? Perhaps they'll round up all the motorists in the daily rush hour traffic jams on the M25.... Cheers, helen s Should have added... not all police seem to have the flair for the headline-grabbing stupidity that the current head of the Met does. Which is good. Is Blair head of Met hoping to replace our Dear Leader, slipping in by the back door on the grounds of same surname, same overreaction, no-one will notice the difference? |
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This is why I hate CM. It takes people who are neutral or even pro-bike
and makes them actively anti-bike. -- Peter Headland |
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![]() David Hansen wrote: I am surprised not to have noticed anything here on the police attack on Critical Mass discussed here the next day ;-) |
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In fact despite having said I won't ride CM again I'm sufficiently
goaded to turn up for next month's just because of this, even though IMO bikes should kept out of politics. |
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On 6 Oct 2005 13:08:52 -0700, Peter Headland wrote:
This is why I hate CM. It takes people who are neutral or even pro-bike and makes them actively anti-bike. The fact is that the group, self styled Critical Mass, wishes to evade it's collective responsibility to behave properly and often behaves very badly by all accounts. I fail to see why other road users, including pedestrians, should have to suffer their bullish behavior because 'they' choose to behave like louts once a month. If CM want to ride around London, fine, obey the rules... all of them. If CM voluntary workers think they are above or beyond the law and hope to evade the responsibility they are taking on themselves in 'not' organizing the ride, but publicly promoting it, they may find they are in fact 'responsible' in the 'eyes of the law'. This requirement is a notice to all that public anarchy once a month will no longer be tolerated. A notice which is long overdue in my opinion. Sniper8052 One time supporter of CM... |
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wafflycat wrote:
Should have added... not all police seem to have the flair for the headline-grabbing stupidity that the current head of the Met does. Which is good. Is Blair head of Met hoping to replace our Dear Leader, slipping in by the back door on the grounds of same surname, same overreaction, no-one will notice the difference? There is something of the Slitheen about him -- Tony "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't" Anon |
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David Hansen wrote:
I am surprised not to have noticed anything here on the police attack on Critical Mass outlined in various places, You didn't notice http://snipurl.com/i7uz then. -- Tony "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't" Anon |
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Sniper8052 wrote:
often behaves very badly by all accounts. You'll have to be a bit more specific than that. I fail to see why other road users, including pedestrians, should have to suffer their bullish behavior because 'they' choose to behave like louts once a month. I fail to see why cyclists should put up with the bullish behaviour of motorists on every other day of the month, but YMMV. This requirement is a notice to all that public anarchy once a month will no longer be tolerated. A notice which is long overdue in my opinion. If you want to know the time, ask a policeman. But if you want advice on a point of law ... d. |
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