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Old June 30th 04, 04:02 PM
Ken Pisichko
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.

Ken

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Old June 30th 04, 04:20 PM
Sheldon Brown
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

Ken Pisichko wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?


Either will work in friction mode. There's a good chance you could get
the 9-speed to index the 8 sprockets with a bit of fiddling.

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.


I'd suggest reconsidering this...all you need to make it 9-speed (aside
from the shifters) is a 9-speed cassette and compatible chain.

The stuff about derailers being "[number]-speed" is just marketing hype,
all of them work with any number of speeds, as long as the shift lever
matches the cassette.

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Old June 30th 04, 04:23 PM
Dan Daniel
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:02:38 -0500, Ken Pisichko wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.

Ken


Won't work. The spacing between cogs is different. Wait for the 8
speed. Unless you want to use them non-indexed, in which case I have
some old Suntour barcons you can have for $2 plus shipping

The 8 speed bar ends should be easily available.
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Old June 30th 04, 04:30 PM
Gonzo Bob
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

Are you talking Shimano?

If the rear derailer is *not* Dura-ace model 7400, get the 9-speed
shifters and a 9-speed cassette. You're good to go.

If it is Dura-ace 7400, get the 9-speed shifters and you're good to go
with 8-speed.



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Old June 30th 04, 06:11 PM
Zog The Undeniable
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

Ken Pisichko wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.

Wait until the dealer can get 8 speed Ultegra shifters.
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Old June 30th 04, 09:44 PM
Peter Cole
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

"Ken Pisichko" wrote in message
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I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.


Nashbar has Ultegra 8-speed for $40. I'd stick with 8-speed for now, cassettes
and chains are much cheaper.


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Old July 1st 04, 04:49 PM
David
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

In article , Ken Pisichko
wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.



I used to run an 8 speed cog set with a 9 speed Dura Ace bar end
shifter awhile back with a SRAM PC-48 chain and it works ok in the
indexed mode. I now run a customized 9 speed cassette (LX 9 with 2
custom selected gears) with the same SRAM PC-48 8 speed chain and with
the Dura Ace. It is working smoothly without a hitch. Though running
a 8 speed chain is not recommended, I seemed to have no rubbing issues
with my Deore long cage derailleur..

Speaking of the derailleur, the numbering scheme is a marketing
gimmick. What's important is the length of the cage if you are
planning on running a 32 or 34 teeth at the rear.
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Old July 6th 04, 12:35 AM
Steve Palincsar
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:02:38 -0400, Ken Pisichko wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.



I had no difficulty finding 8-speed Shimano bar end shifters on eBay new
for about $35 a couple of weeks ago. Right now, 9-speed bar end shifters
are very scarce and are pulling a huge premium, as are some 9-speed
cassettes.
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Old July 6th 04, 12:35 AM
Steve Palincsar
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Default Shimano bae end shifter compatability: 8 speed versus 9 speed.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:02:38 -0400, Ken Pisichko wrote:

I am planning to purchase a bike and am assembling some components. The
rear gear is an 8 speed. The dealer is currently out of 8 speed end bar
shifters but has 9 and 10 speed units in stock.

Can I use the 9 and 10 speeed shifters on the 8 speed gear and
derailler, or should I wait for the 8 speed shifters? Any problems with
using his available 9 or 10 speed shifters?

Going to a 9 or 10 speed derailler and rear gears is not an option at
this stage of the game.



I had no difficulty finding 8-speed Shimano bar end shifters on eBay new
for about $35 a couple of weeks ago. Right now, 9-speed bar end shifters
are very scarce and are pulling a huge premium, as are some 9-speed
cassettes.
 




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