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Frank Krygowski wrote: Nate Nagel wrote: Alan Baker wrote in message ... In article , Frank Krygowski wrote: ... I did get a look at the warning sign for that ramp. The sign is literally the size of a billboard! It just didn't look like a trick to me! Perhaps that should tell you something about the affect of all the improperly posted warning signs that people have encountered that they should have to make that one so very large... I believe I've addressed this already - even if you accept the "larger means they really mean it" premise, it doesn't hold up, as every tollbooth in the state of PA has similarly sized signs recommending similar speeds, and are pretty much uniformly ludicrous (i.e. 25 MPH or 35 MPH 1/2 mile away from a tollbooth, which you can still see anyway because the road is dead flat and arrow straight.) As an added bonus, they throw up rumble strips before the signs to make *sure* you see them. This is at least partly because a tractor trailer plowed through a toll booth a few years ago. The toll booth workers _really_ prefer that drivers come out of their trances. It helps their life expectancy. And I imagine it's partly because accidents happen when drivers somehow miss the fact that traffic is actually backed up and stopped at the toll booths. Now you may wonder, how on earth could someone drive along and not see a line of cars, or a tool booth, sitting stationary in the road ahead of them? But then, we wonder how someone could misjudge a 25 mph ramp to the point they have to do a "controlled four wheel drift" [sic] to make it through! Because the portion that required 25 mph was out of plain view and advisory limits are so habitually wrong by a factor of two that there's no way any reasonable person would trust them. Road zombies. They need to wake up, and slow down. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." |
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In article , Frank Krygowski
wrote: snip Road zombies. They need to wake up, and slow down. Or maybe just hang up! Almost bought it yesterday because of some inatentive drivers yaking on their cell phones. I was as far to the right in a bike lane as you can get. HAND Yo! Frank! You on sabatical this semester??? |
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In article , Frank Krygowski wrote:
This is at least partly because a tractor trailer plowed through a toll booth a few years ago. The toll booth workers _really_ prefer that drivers come out of their trances. It helps their life expectancy. See this is the speed kills idiotcy at work. Someone bribes their way to an IL CDL, starts driving a truck without the proper training, trades it in for CA CDL, eventually rams a line of cars at toll booth and kills a few people and what's the answer? Lower the speed limits. Typical dishonesty. Bringing this up allows for the illustration of the corruption of IL government, but anything else. |
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Nate Nagel Wrote: ...Yeah, I've just accepted the fact that Frank is immune to reason. There's a difference between a mountain road and an Interstate highway, but he refuses to acknowledge that. nate Funny that Nate...I'm starting to come to the conclusion that you're the one who seems to an obstacle embedded in your reasoning appartus. A variation of a cognitive short circuit. Frank's reasoning seems to be sound and clearly argued to me. I suspect that what you call reasoning on your part is a feeble attempts to justify your recalcitrant propensities. That is not reasoning per se but rather a pitiful pretense. A cant of concocted arguments and wolly confabulations parading as 'reasoning'. Oh, and another thing - you seem have plenty of quantity in your spiels, but alas, quantity is no substitute for substance and quality. Notice how Frank manages toaddress the point so clearly and directly and concisely. Now I know that is beyond your capabilities to match Franks acute ability and clear cognitive vision, and you think that you can bluster your way through with volume - but hey- you're only fooling yourself. It's not so much that you don't know when to quit - but your unwillingness to recognise the problems underpinning your own position and you arguments. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! Roger -- RogerDodger |
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Mark Jones Wrote: "Frank Krygowski" wrote in message ... Mark Jones wrote: Works for me. I hate waiting around for a delivery when I could be doing something else. There's _nothing_ to do at your home? I might even want to go for a bike ride. If I have to wait around for hours for a delivery to occur, then I am letting them determine what I can do, instead of me getting to decide. There is plenty to do around my house, but I do not like being pinned down by a delivery window that runs for several hours. Uh rent a Uhaul pickup for 19.99 the five or six times a year that you might need one. No waiting no wasting. -- vichercules |
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AZGuy Wrote: Well, as long as cops feel it's OK for them to drive WAY faster then the rest of traffic I'm going to think it's OK for me to (as long as I can avoid the cops). If it's safe for them, it's safe for me. Hey yeah, a thread bout inner cities going to bikes, transit, smart cars and commercial vehicles only! ahhhh para dise.....but no, just rednecks lol, ahhh the internet, information super highway studded with roadhouses filled with drunken inbreds. oh did i quote something? oh well, now we can read about AZguys adventures as he took the training classes in driving required of law enforcement and how he decorated his truck to give the impression he's in a vehicle that draws more attention and observation from the folks he shares the road with. Didja paint stripes on it or stick scotchlite all over it or didja go buy an old set of lights to flash if needed? j/k j/k don't blow a gasket milita man, I drive 90+ on I-10 between cities too. but the point of laws regarding safety is just that. If you don't trust your fellow man to decide for himself if he really needs to observe that red light then you yourself must stop when you encounter one. -- Glowingrod |
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Attention petrolheads and recalcitrant speedsters (Brent P and Nate Nagel??) Heres a news release from downunder that might tickle your fancy - I'm sure that you'll agree with this... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 14 October 2004 MEDIA RELEASE For immediate use Cyclists call for lower road speeds National organisation the Cycling Advocates' Network (CAN) today supported a review of blanket open road speed limits, but said the upper speed limit should not be raised from 100 km/h. CAN also called for speeds in many urban areas to be reduced to 30km/h, reinforced by traffic calming measures. CAN spokesperson Robert Ibell said there are good safety and environmental reasons for lower speeds. "Raising the open road speed limit would increase fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emissions. That's the wrong way to go, with climate change already having an impact on New Zealand." said Mr Ibell. "Lower speed limits would also help lower the road toll." said Mr Ibell. "Installing 30km/h zones in urban areas would significantly reduce the number and severity of crashes for pedestrians and cyclists, especially amongst children and the elderly." "Review speed limits by all means," said Mr Ibell, "but review them downwards." Ends. For further information, contact Robert Ibell, CAN, 04-972 2552 Supporting information - "The probability of death for a pedestrian is five per cent if hit by a vehicle travelling at 32 km/h, 45% if hit by a vehicle travelling at 48 km/h and 85% if hit by a vehicle travelling at 64 km/h." (Down With Speed, ACC, 2000, p.27) - "Child pedestrian and child cyclist accidents fell by 70 and 48 per cent respectively after the [20mph] schemes were installed, giving an overall reduction of 67 per cent for all child accidents. The reduction in accidents for all cyclists was 29 per cent." (Review of traffic calming schemes in 20 mph zones, TRL, UK, 1996) - "Encouraging slow drivers to speed up would lead to more crashes and injuries. Slow drivers could instead be encouraged to pull over at safe locations if they hold up traffic." (Down With Speed, ACC, 2000, p.23) - "Fast drivers rather than slow drivers comprise the core safety problem, and encouraging all speeding drivers to slow down would have greater benefits for overall road safety than targeting the speed of slower drivers." (Down With Speed, ACC, 2000, p.23) The Cycling Advocates' Network of NZ Inc. (CAN) is this country's national network of cycling advocate groups. It is a voice for all non-competitive cyclists - recreational, commuter and touring. We work with central government and local authorities, on behalf of cyclists, for a better cycling environment. We have affiliated groups and individual members throughout the country, and links with overseas cycling organisations. In addition, some national/regional/local government authorities, transportation consultancies, and cycle industry businesses are supporting organisations. -- Robert Ibell Campaigns & PR Secretary Cycling Advocates Network of NZ Inc. PO Box 6491, Auckland, NZ -- RogerDodger |
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H. M. Leary wrote: Road zombies. They need to wake up, and slow down. Or maybe just hang up! Driving to work is boring enough with a cell phone. If I regularly commuted by car I'd need a DVD or book to occupy me. -- a href="http://www.poohsticks.org/drew/"Home Page/a Life is a terminal sexually transmitted disease. |
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