v brakes for right side cable routing....

ok...i've got an older frame....rear brake cable is routed on the right
hand side of the top tube...

i've used v brakes in the past but they required the 130 degree
noodle...which worked fine but always seemed to have tons more
drag...even with a new cable and noodle...than a 90 degree....

even resorted to cantis to resolve the problem in the mean time....they
work great but require all sorts of ugly bolt-on clamps...

i want to get a new V brake but can't seem to find many that allow for
the noddle to anchor to the right arm instead of the left....

i know Cane Creek make the DC5s but they are ugly as sin....and make me
physically ill just looking at them....they also have many moving parts
and didn't have the solid feel i like....

Paul components makes some as well, but the lack of a rubber boots
means i've had to clean out the noddle quite often and since i'm in a
temperate climate...i can't afford to leave water and mud access to my
brake cable....

and the Avid Ultimates....nice...but unfortunatly...the fronts tend to
squeal like an 8 year old girl. i can hear the barrage of mind
numbingly redundant replies typing up about toe in, toe out, toe up,
under toe....scouring the pad....scouring the rims...scouring the
sink....trust me...i've owned these too and even after having Avid send
a variety of pads and holders...it never went away....


anyone seen any nice v brakes that allow for right arm routing?

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ok...i've got an older frame....rear brake cable is routed on the
right hand side of the top tube...

i've used v brakes in the past but they required the 130 degree
noodle...which worked fine but always seemed to have tons more
drag...even with a new cable and noodle...than a 90 degree....

even resorted to cantis to resolve the problem in the mean
time....they work great but require all sorts of ugly bolt-on
clamps...

i want to get a new V brake but can't seem to find many that allow for
the noddle to anchor to the right arm instead of the left....

i know Cane Creek make the DC5s but they are ugly as sin....and make
me physically ill just looking at them....they also have many moving
parts and didn't have the solid feel i like....

Paul components makes some as well, but the lack of a rubber boots
means i've had to clean out the noddle quite often and since i'm in a
temperate climate...i can't afford to leave water and mud access to my
brake cable....

and the Avid Ultimates....nice...but unfortunatly...the fronts tend to
squeal like an 8 year old girl. i can hear the barrage of mind
numbingly redundant replies typing up about toe in, toe out, toe up,
under toe....scouring the pad....scouring the rims...scouring the
sink....trust me...i've owned these too and even after having Avid
send a variety of pads and holders...it never went away....


anyone seen any nice v brakes that allow for right arm routing?

You've hit all the possibilities. I'd been looking for similar alternatives
and found those three to be the viable choices.

Your best choices is to use the Ultimates but replace the brake pads with
something like Kool-stop pads. Also, don't use pads with holders... use the
solid pad that will vibrate less. No toe-in, and grease the brake bosses
before putting the calipers on the bike. Report back here.

I use Speed Dial 5 brakes with the 135-degree noodle that I clean out every
once in a while. Works well but it's kinda ugly.

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tried the Kool Stops on the Ultimates but they are too narrow and wore
a nice narrow grove down the middle of the rim...kool stop, eagle, and
aztec are the brands i stay away from.

i had the best luck with the Ritchey Logic Wet Conditions pads. but as
soon as i washed the bike. the squeal was back. i had to let the pads
get dirty and stay that way so keep the squeal down.

but it seems like a lot of hoodoo for a set of $100 brakes. ya know
what i mean?

most of the people i know that had Trek Fuel 100s, had a set in the
front and could not get them to stop. even after the same hoodoo with
different pads, holders, solid pads, and all manner of set up.....

i really like the Shimano Nexave brakes...svelte and simple...but
again...no right arm routing option....

personally...i'm trying to get rid of the ugly....

i even called Litespeed to see if i could get them repositioned but
theyr wanted waaay to much....why they put them on the right side still
baffles me to this day.

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tried the Kool Stops on the Ultimates but they are too narrow and wore
a nice narrow grove down the middle of the rim...kool stop, eagle, and
aztec are the brands i stay away from.

i had the best luck with the Ritchey Logic Wet Conditions pads. but as
soon as i washed the bike. the squeal was back. i had to let the pads
get dirty and stay that way so keep the squeal down.

but it seems like a lot of hoodoo for a set of $100 brakes. ya know
what i mean?

most of the people i know that had Trek Fuel 100s, had a set in the
front and could not get them to stop. even after the same hoodoo with
different pads, holders, solid pads, and all manner of set up.....

i really like the Shimano Nexave brakes...svelte and simple...but
again...no right arm routing option....

personally...i'm trying to get rid of the ugly....

i even called Litespeed to see if i could get them repositioned but
theyr wanted waaay to much....why they put them on the right side still
baffles me to this day.

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On 20 Sep 2005 02:30:18 GMT, wrote:

ok...i've got an older frame....rear brake cable is routed on the right
hand side of the top tube...

The easiest way to overcome this is to ignore the mounts and run cable
housing for the entire route. Not as elegant, perhaps, but it
eliminates the entire right-side-mount issue.
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Housing, zip ties and left side routing. At least for "proof of concept" ?

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Aesthetics beside, the DC5s have advantages you should be aware of. It
should be possible to completely disassemble all of the moving parts in
the DC5s because they reverse by swapping arms rather than just moving
the noodle shackle. This is a great benefit and a hard to find feature
as most V-brakes use press fit bushings that are impossible to remove
without damage. Complete disassembly lets you thoroughly clean out the
bushings and dramatically impoves the feel of gunked up brakes. I don't
understand why you complain about their moving parts. They seem to have
no more moving parts than normal V-brakes (fewer actually without the
shackle).

The Pauls may also disassemblable. You could just substitute a noodle
and boot from another set of brakes if you want better protection.

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:19:54 CST, "GWood" wrote:

Housing, zip ties and left side routing. At least for "proof of concept" ?

Doesn't anybody make decent clamp on cable stops nowadays?


Jasper

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i considered that....but, even though it would solve the problem....it
never looks very nice. otherwise, i'd have done that a long time
ago....

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sure...but again.....like the running of a full length of
housing....i'd like to avoid having to modify or bolt things to the
frame to get this work out......

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