Arguing for the sake of arguing.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

ERD On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:00:06 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 3:09:42 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 15/3/21 5:02 am, Tom Kunich wrote:
What is going on here. This has been going on not days or weeks but years and all by people that know nothing about most of the subjects they are arguing about.

It isn't as if I don't respect actual opinions of people like Jay, Roger, Lou or the very occasional reliable statement from Frank. But **** from Jeff is just that. ****. Can you just imagine someone criticizing a resume? Especially one with dozens of references?

This is bicycle forum and I occasionally wander off subject to inform people. The CDC statistics showing that the pandemic ended the end of April, 2020 is important so that particularly the older people don't have to worry. These aren't personal opinions. The CDC studies that show that masks do nothing are not my opinions but clear information for YOUR good and certainly not mine. I already know this stuff and always have. I can sit around sipping a good wine with surgeons that all know this and that everyone is being driven broke or worse yet, to suicide for NO REAON other than political power on the part of communists.

How can you ride a bicycle with a mask on? I tell you that it causes a form of CO2 poisoning and since I have lung damage from my work with the Military I damn well know what it is like to have lung damage.

None of this prevents you from ignoring what I say and hiding in your basement like Biden did or wearing a mask because you're sure that they are God's gift to mankind. None of this prevents you from getting a vaccination for covid-19, It certainly isn't going to hurt anyone but the tiny percentage that might have an allergic reaction to any vaccination.

But we all bicycle and a large part of that life has been taken away from us by faulty information and political intrigue. You should know the real facts or you can think like my brother than the CDC data is just someone's opinion and not a coroner's report. Or you can be part of the great reset.

For a while now I've looked for the start of new threads, and if it
pertains to actual bicycles and cycling, I'll read it and maybe respond.
All other posts are ignored unless they are a reply to mine. So much
BS to cut through.

Well, I agree with you. But what do you do when people hijack a thread? As I pointed out, isn't it important to you to know that there is almost no covid-19 pandemic and that you do not personally have to worry about it? Or that you most definitely should not be wearing a mask while you ride? I would think that this is to the point of bicycling wouldn't you? But this gets turned into idiots like Jeff lecturing me about how I should write my resume or Jay telling us that if I really had accomplished all of these things I should have patents. Tony Heller designed and debugged a large part of the largest Intel processor and what he got was a plaque. I had a dozen of those plagues. No patents on anything. I've never heard of anyone getting a patent on a design for a private company. I worked on the central part of the west coast Arcnet which was the predecessor to the Internet. NO one that worked on that received a patent of any sort and that was the largest time sharing computer of
its
time. So Perhaps Jay and John should stick to things they know more than the ignorance of the Internet.
Yup, Tommy thinks "there is almost no covid-19 pandemic" and the rest
of the world thinks that the U.S. has 30,129,123 cases and 547,857
deaths due to the virus. So the question becomes "who's right"? Tommy
or the rest of the world?

I might add that the U.S. Government apparently doesn't believe our
boy Tommy as they are prepared to hand over some $1.9 Trillion for
relief of Tommy's imaginary sickness. That is what? $1,400 for every
one in the country... for a figment of someone's imagination?

I suppose that it should come as no surprise that John is rolling over and over in propaganda because he is so ignorant. It is "the US government" in the form of the
CDC that supplied the total data that you don't believe. The CDC shows that the total number of primary and secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000 but you would rather believe Biden because with him you are both in demented denial.


Tommy boy, as I have previously said, you believe (I have no doubt
that you really do believe) that the virus is a nothing thing. But the
rest of the world believes it is a very real pandemic.

And, as I previously said, the U.S. government believes it to the
extent that they are going to give nearly two billion dollars to the
inhabitants of that country because of losses caused by the virus.

Perhaps you should notify the President and both houses of the
congress that the virus is a farce so that they can save that 1.9
billion.

Goodness, Gracious! I made a mistake! It isn't billion dollars it is
TRILLION dollars. (I think numbers that large deserve to be
capitalized :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:

The CDC shows that the total number of primary and
secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000

Primary and Secondary deaths?
If you're dead, you're dead.

News 2021 wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:

The CDC shows that the total number of primary and
secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000

Primary and Secondary deaths?
If you're dead, you're dead.


Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 4:28:34 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

ERD On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:00:06 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 3:09:42 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 15/3/21 5:02 am, Tom Kunich wrote:
What is going on here. This has been going on not days or weeks but years and all by people that know nothing about most of the subjects they are arguing about.

It isn't as if I don't respect actual opinions of people like Jay, Roger, Lou or the very occasional reliable statement from Frank. But **** from Jeff is just that. ****. Can you just imagine someone criticizing a resume? Especially one with dozens of references?

This is bicycle forum and I occasionally wander off subject to inform people. The CDC statistics showing that the pandemic ended the end of April, 2020 is important so that particularly the older people don't have to worry. These aren't personal opinions. The CDC studies that show that masks do nothing are not my opinions but clear information for YOUR good and certainly not mine. I already know this stuff and always have. I can sit around sipping a good wine with surgeons that all know this and that everyone is being driven broke or worse yet, to suicide for NO REAON other than political power on the part of communists.

How can you ride a bicycle with a mask on? I tell you that it causes a form of CO2 poisoning and since I have lung damage from my work with the Military I damn well know what it is like to have lung damage.

None of this prevents you from ignoring what I say and hiding in your basement like Biden did or wearing a mask because you're sure that they are God's gift to mankind. None of this prevents you from getting a vaccination for covid-19, It certainly isn't going to hurt anyone but the tiny percentage that might have an allergic reaction to any vaccination.

But we all bicycle and a large part of that life has been taken away from us by faulty information and political intrigue. You should know the real facts or you can think like my brother than the CDC data is just someone's opinion and not a coroner's report. Or you can be part of the great reset.

For a while now I've looked for the start of new threads, and if it
pertains to actual bicycles and cycling, I'll read it and maybe respond.
All other posts are ignored unless they are a reply to mine. So much
BS to cut through.

Well, I agree with you. But what do you do when people hijack a thread? As I pointed out, isn't it important to you to know that there is almost no covid-19 pandemic and that you do not personally have to worry about it? Or that you most definitely should not be wearing a mask while you ride? I would think that this is to the point of bicycling wouldn't you? But this gets turned into idiots like Jeff lecturing me about how I should write my resume or Jay telling us that if I really had accomplished all of these things I should have patents. Tony Heller designed and debugged a large part of the largest Intel processor and what he got was a plaque. I had a dozen of those plagues. No patents on anything. I've never heard of anyone getting a patent on a design for a private company. I worked on the central part of the west coast Arcnet which was the predecessor to the Internet. NO one that worked on that received a patent of any sort and that was the largest time sharing computer of
its
time. So Perhaps Jay and John should stick to things they know more than the ignorance of the Internet.
Yup, Tommy thinks "there is almost no covid-19 pandemic" and the rest
of the world thinks that the U.S. has 30,129,123 cases and 547,857
deaths due to the virus. So the question becomes "who's right"? Tommy
or the rest of the world?

I might add that the U.S. Government apparently doesn't believe our
boy Tommy as they are prepared to hand over some $1.9 Trillion for
relief of Tommy's imaginary sickness. That is what? $1,400 for every
one in the country... for a figment of someone's imagination?

I suppose that it should come as no surprise that John is rolling over and over in propaganda because he is so ignorant. It is "the US government" in the form of the
CDC that supplied the total data that you don't believe. The CDC shows that the total number of primary and secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000 but you would rather believe Biden because with him you are both in demented denial.
Tommy boy, as I have previously said, you believe (I have no doubt
that you really do believe) that the virus is a nothing thing. But the
rest of the world believes it is a very real pandemic.

And, as I previously said, the U.S. government believes it to the
extent that they are going to give nearly two billion dollars to the
inhabitants of that country because of losses caused by the virus.

Perhaps you should notify the President and both houses of the
congress that the virus is a farce so that they can save that 1.9
billion.

Goodness, Gracious! I made a mistake! It isn't billion dollars it is
TRILLION dollars. (I think numbers that large deserve to be
capitalized :-)

Is there one thing that you "believe" that doesn't come from your authority, Joe Biden?

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 7:05:47 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
News 2021 wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:

The CDC shows that the total number of primary and
secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000

Primary and Secondary deaths?
If you're dead, you're dead.

Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)
Primary deaths are from the respiratory illness itself. Secondary deaths are those very sick people with serious circulatory diseases who covid-19 is simply another load on their system and they cannot handle it. Their deaths are not CAUSED by covid-19 but sped up by it.

While we are being threatened with this dangerous disease that is so severe that you have to have a test to even know you have it, as of March there are some 30% fewer total deaths that in a normal year and we are still being threatened with instant death is we don't wear a mask that all CDC and medical research shows is of no value EVEN for bacterial infections.

On 3/16/2021 7:05 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:

snip

Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)

With 49% of Republican men stating that they will not get vaccinated
that means a lot better vaccine availability for everyone else. But
actually I think that the 49% number that resulted from a poll doesn't
reflect reality. Most of those 49% will end up getting vaccinated
especially when evidence of being vaccinated is required for certain
activities (flying on a commercial airline, etc.).

Every Republican male that I know (admittedly that's not a large number)
is getting, or has already got, the vaccine. Even Trump has recommended
that people get vaccinated.

COVID-19 has hit people in Republican-led states hardest, and
Republicans are already on the losing end of demographic trends and
can't be losing a lot of voters.
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2021/as-cases-spread-across-us-last-year-pattern-emerged-suggesting-link-between-governors-party-affiliation-and-covid-19-case-and-death-numbers.html.

We're at over 536,000 Covid deaths in the U.S.. That's 0.16% of the U.S.
population.

Vaccine availability has greatly expanded recently. I have my
appointment set.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:00:33 -0700, sms
wrote:

On 3/16/2021 7:05 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:

snip

Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)

With 49% of Republican men stating that they will not get vaccinated
that means a lot better vaccine availability for everyone else. But
actually I think that the 49% number that resulted from a poll doesn't
reflect reality. Most of those 49% will end up getting vaccinated
especially when evidence of being vaccinated is required for certain
activities (flying on a commercial airline, etc.).

Every Republican male that I know (admittedly that's not a large number)
is getting, or has already got, the vaccine. Even Trump has recommended
that people get vaccinated.

COVID-19 has hit people in Republican-led states hardest, and
Republicans are already on the losing end of demographic trends and
can't be losing a lot of voters.
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2021/as-cases-spread-across-us-last-year-pattern-emerged-suggesting-link-between-governors-party-affiliation-and-covid-19-case-and-death-numbers.html.

We're at over 536,000 Covid deaths in the U.S.. That's 0.16% of the U.S.
population.

Vaccine availability has greatly expanded recently. I have my
appointment set.

Disregarding the virus, I have always been very apprehensive regarding
"surveys" partially because a friend who was in the financial survey
business once remarked "tell me what you want to prove and I will
design a survey to prove it" and secondly because any survey I have
ever seen actually surveys only a tiny percentage of the population.
The Bangkok Post newspaper here is always reporting surveys - "We
surveyed 1,783 individuals and overwhelmingly they preferred..." In a
city of 10.7 million. Hmmm 1783/10700000= :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 3/16/2021 7:05 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:

snip
Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)
With 49% of Republican men stating that they will not get vaccinated
that means a lot better vaccine availability for everyone else. But
actually I think that the 49% number that resulted from a poll doesn't
reflect reality. Most of those 49% will end up getting vaccinated
especially when evidence of being vaccinated is required for certain
activities (flying on a commercial airline, etc.).

Every Republican male that I know (admittedly that's not a large number)
is getting, or has already got, the vaccine. Even Trump has recommended
that people get vaccinated.

COVID-19 has hit people in Republican-led states hardest, and
Republicans are already on the losing end of demographic trends and
can't be losing a lot of voters.
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2021/as-cases-spread-across-us-last-year-pattern-emerged-suggesting-link-between-governors-party-affiliation-and-covid-19-case-and-death-numbers.html.

We're at over 536,000 Covid deaths in the U.S.. That's 0.16% of the U.S.
population.

Vaccine availability has greatly expanded recently. I have my
appointment set.
I realize that you neither believe in science nor can accept the claims of those who can. Not only was the pandemic over as of the last week in April of last year. But it only directly killed 7,500 people. So, you probably cannot balance that with the Democrat proclaimed half million or the so-called "second spike" that never occurred. When you're so exceedingly stupid you should be careful not to show it since you think of yourself as a "politicians" despite the fact that no one can stand you. I know that you have an overwhelming need to believe that covid is killing people by the millions despite that fact that tight now total deaths in the USA are 30% below normal..

P.S. I don't believe you could be more stupid.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 4:28:34 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

ERD On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:00:06 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 3:09:42 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 15/3/21 5:02 am, Tom Kunich wrote:
What is going on here. This has been going on not days or weeks but years and all by people that know nothing about most of the subjects they are arguing about.

It isn't as if I don't respect actual opinions of people like Jay, Roger, Lou or the very occasional reliable statement from Frank. But **** from Jeff is just that. ****. Can you just imagine someone criticizing a resume? Especially one with dozens of references?

This is bicycle forum and I occasionally wander off subject to inform people. The CDC statistics showing that the pandemic ended the end of April, 2020 is important so that particularly the older people don't have to worry. These aren't personal opinions. The CDC studies that show that masks do nothing are not my opinions but clear information for YOUR good and certainly not mine. I already know this stuff and always have. I can sit around sipping a good wine with surgeons that all know this and that everyone is being driven broke or worse yet, to suicide for NO REAON other than political power on the part of communists.

How can you ride a bicycle with a mask on? I tell you that it causes a form of CO2 poisoning and since I have lung damage from my work with the Military I damn well know what it is like to have lung damage.

None of this prevents you from ignoring what I say and hiding in your basement like Biden did or wearing a mask because you're sure that they are God's gift to mankind. None of this prevents you from getting a vaccination for covid-19, It certainly isn't going to hurt anyone but the tiny percentage that might have an allergic reaction to any vaccination.

But we all bicycle and a large part of that life has been taken away from us by faulty information and political intrigue. You should know the real facts or you can think like my brother than the CDC data is just someone's opinion and not a coroner's report. Or you can be part of the great reset.

For a while now I've looked for the start of new threads, and if it
pertains to actual bicycles and cycling, I'll read it and maybe respond.
All other posts are ignored unless they are a reply to mine. So much
BS to cut through.

Well, I agree with you. But what do you do when people hijack a thread? As I pointed out, isn't it important to you to know that there is almost no covid-19 pandemic and that you do not personally have to worry about it? Or that you most definitely should not be wearing a mask while you ride? I would think that this is to the point of bicycling wouldn't you? But this gets turned into idiots like Jeff lecturing me about how I should write my resume or Jay telling us that if I really had accomplished all of these things I should have patents. Tony Heller designed and debugged a large part of the largest Intel processor and what he got was a plaque. I had a dozen of those plagues. No patents on anything. I've never heard of anyone getting a patent on a design for a private company. I worked on the central part of the west coast Arcnet which was the predecessor to the Internet. NO one that worked on that received a patent of any sort and that was the largest time sharing computer
of
its
time. So Perhaps Jay and John should stick to things they know more than the ignorance of the Internet.
Yup, Tommy thinks "there is almost no covid-19 pandemic" and the rest
of the world thinks that the U.S. has 30,129,123 cases and 547,857
deaths due to the virus. So the question becomes "who's right"? Tommy
or the rest of the world?

I might add that the U.S. Government apparently doesn't believe our
boy Tommy as they are prepared to hand over some $1.9 Trillion for
relief of Tommy's imaginary sickness. That is what? $1,400 for every
one in the country... for a figment of someone's imagination?

I suppose that it should come as no surprise that John is rolling over and over in propaganda because he is so ignorant. It is "the US government" in the form of the
CDC that supplied the total data that you don't believe. The CDC shows that the total number of primary and secondary deaths from covid-19 if 19,000 but you would rather believe Biden because with him you are both in demented denial.
Tommy boy, as I have previously said, you believe (I have no doubt
that you really do believe) that the virus is a nothing thing. But the
rest of the world believes it is a very real pandemic.

And, as I previously said, the U.S. government believes it to the
extent that they are going to give nearly two billion dollars to the
inhabitants of that country because of losses caused by the virus.

Perhaps you should notify the President and both houses of the
congress that the virus is a farce so that they can save that 1.9
billion.

Goodness, Gracious! I made a mistake! It isn't billion dollars it is
TRILLION dollars. (I think numbers that large deserve to be
capitalized :-)

Is there one thing that you "believe" that doesn't come from your authority, Joe Biden?

But Tommy, it didn't come from the President, it came from CNBC, ABC
News, CNN and US News. But since you didn't see it on twitter I
suppose it is probably fake news.

You really are brain damaged, aren't you.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:16:16 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 3/16/2021 7:05 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:

snip
Some people get it real bad and die twice :-)
With 49% of Republican men stating that they will not get vaccinated
that means a lot better vaccine availability for everyone else. But
actually I think that the 49% number that resulted from a poll doesn't
reflect reality. Most of those 49% will end up getting vaccinated
especially when evidence of being vaccinated is required for certain
activities (flying on a commercial airline, etc.).

Every Republican male that I know (admittedly that's not a large number)
is getting, or has already got, the vaccine. Even Trump has recommended
that people get vaccinated.

COVID-19 has hit people in Republican-led states hardest, and
Republicans are already on the losing end of demographic trends and
can't be losing a lot of voters.
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2021/as-cases-spread-across-us-last-year-pattern-emerged-suggesting-link-between-governors-party-affiliation-and-covid-19-case-and-death-numbers.html.

We're at over 536,000 Covid deaths in the U.S.. That's 0.16% of the U.S.
population.

Vaccine availability has greatly expanded recently. I have my
appointment set.
I realize that you neither believe in science nor can accept the claims of those who can. Not only was the pandemic over as of the last week in April of last year. But it only directly killed 7,500 people. So, you probably cannot balance that with the Democrat proclaimed half million or the so-called "second spike" that never occurred. When you're so exceedingly stupid you should be careful not to show it since you think of yourself as a "politicians" despite the fact that no one can stand you. I know that you have an overwhelming need to believe that covid is killing people by the millions despite that fact that tight now total deaths in the USA are 30% below normal.

P.S. I don't believe you could be more stupid.

Tommy, you are right up full of the brown stuff.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html
"As of March 10, 2021, a total of 527,726 COVID-19 deaths were
reported. "

--
Cheers,

John B.