oligarchy and George Carlin

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 5/4/2021 1:32 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/4/2021 3:01 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:57:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 11:28:34 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/29/2021 10:35 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

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Like all skunks if you think that you can get something for free you're right there with your hand out, but if you have to pay for it out of your own pocket, you're riding a 12 year old POS touring bike.

Uhm... uh, ,,wait a sec
I'm ,uh, trying to find the words, for, uh,
uh, for, uhm, ... .. because, uhm OK, uh.. ok, let's try this:

We need a 12 year old touring bike that doesn't suck

Here you a

https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/...spx?item=17837
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Uhm
Surly still sells the Long Haul Trucker. Marin has the Four Corners.

Since Shimano has dropped a lot of the triple cranksets in the
higher-end groups, the newer touring bikes are now 3x9 with a Sora front
derailleur. The older touring bikes are fine.
Eyes rolling. Tell me Scharf - do you think that Doug is too stupid to find a bike? Or that he might want descent parts on his bike and not the Chinese made Tiagra?