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Old May 27th 21, 05:20 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.


Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?
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Old May 27th 21, 05:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:05:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 8:57 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.
Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?

Question Russell, who founded Airborne?

Gen Ridgeway, 82d Division, 1942.


HA HA, I watched a podcast of Victor David Hansen who was discussing General Patten. He had a very bad reputation as did General Curtis LeMay. But it turns out that if Eisenhower and Ridgeway had listened to Patten he would have shortened the war and probably saved 400,000 lives. Seem like most of the other Generals didn't like Patten because he was a rich man that came from a filthy rich family and was a college football and polo champion.
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Old May 27th 21, 06:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/27/2021 11:05 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:05:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 8:57 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.
Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?
Question Russell, who founded Airborne?

Gen Ridgeway, 82d Division, 1942.


HA HA, I watched a podcast of Victor David Hansen who was discussing General Patten. He had a very bad reputation as did General Curtis LeMay. But it turns out that if Eisenhower and Ridgeway had listened to Patten he would have shortened the war and probably saved 400,000 lives. Seem like most of the other Generals didn't like Patten because he was a rich man that came from a filthy rich family and was a college football and polo champion.


[sp] Patton

And an exceptional sailor, swimmer and pistol marksman.
Over and above all that, he was a diligent student of
military history, which he applied effectively.


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  #37  
Old May 27th 21, 07:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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John B. wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 05:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:52:57 p.m. UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 03:08:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 7:04:20 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 2:00:40 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Received the Airborne and have started assembly. The Drive Side cup
won't start though the threads look perfectly OK.
Are you screwing it in the right way? It is ISO left hand thread.
The fact that it is a Ti BB shouldn't make it harder to screw in the
cups unless the threads are munged. You'll need anti-seize with
aluminum cups going into Ti.
I ordered English Power Torque cups. They came in and I never
actually bothered to look at them. Yep, they're Italian and that's
what the problem was. Ordered the correct parts. Again.

????? They, wherever you ordered from, SENT Italian threaded bottom
bracket cups? That is a whacky error. Italian threaded bottom brackets
are kind or rare now days. Very few bikes continue to use it. English
threaded cups are on 99% of all bikes. So the typical, far more likely
error is you order the rare unused Italian and receive the common used
by everyone British cups in error. Not what happened to you.

Kind of like driving a Diesel vehicle and going to the gas station and
pulling in wherever and putting fuel in your vehicle. But gasoline,
the 99% used fuel, spigot is too big to fit into the diesel hole in
the vehicle. You're looking for the rare Diesel/Italian and getting
the common everywhere gasoline/British instead. Gas stations avoid
this too easy to occur mistake by making sure gasoline spouts are too
big to fit into Diesel holes.

The rarer hard to believe it ever happens scenario is the person
driving a gasoline vehicle pulls into the station and puts Diesel into
the vehicle. 5% or less of the people want Diesel to begin with. So
not much chance of this wanting Italian but getting British error ever
occurring. And filling stations don't size the pump nozzles to prevent
this rare error. Painting the Diesel nozzles green is good enough.
I had a friend that did just that. Pulled into the service station
rolled up to a pump and says "fill it up" so the service guy did. He
got less than on kilometer down the road and the engine quit.

When he told me the story I asked him, "didn't you look at the pump to
see what it was pumping?" And he says, "No, why do you have to do
that?"

You see here fuel stations all sell several types of gasoline as well
as diesel and many pickup trucks, for example, use diesel and I guess
when a foreigner drives in, stops at a pump clearly marked "diesel"
and loudly demands, "Fill it up!" the service guy reckoned the bloke
knew what he was talking about :-)
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Cheers,

John B.


That's precisely why a fuel filler tube on some vehicles is different so t hat

you can't accidentally put the wrong type of fuel (gasoline vs diesel
or diesel vs gasoline) into the tank.

Cheers


Yup, another device to save mankind from his own foibles. Perhaps I'm
prejudice but if you don't know what to put in the fuel tank are you
really competent to own or operate a motor vehicle?


For Europe much more of a issue, as different languages and way things
work! I remember few years back getting confused attempting, work out the
fuel pumps.

Roger Merriman.

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Old May 28th 21, 12:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 27 May 2021 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:05:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 8:57 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.
Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?
Question Russell, who founded Airborne?

Gen Ridgeway, 82d Division, 1942.


HA HA, I watched a podcast of Victor David Hansen who was discussing General Patten. He had a very bad reputation as did General Curtis LeMay. But it turns out that if Eisenhower and Ridgeway had listened to Patten he would have shortened the war and probably saved 400,000 lives. Seem like most of the other Generals didn't like Patten because he was a rich man that came from a filthy rich family and was a college football and polo champion.


Did General Curtis LeMay have a bad reputation? Certainly he didn't
within SAC.
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Old May 28th 21, 12:53 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 4:13:38 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:05:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 8:57 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.
Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?
Question Russell, who founded Airborne?

Gen Ridgeway, 82d Division, 1942.


HA HA, I watched a podcast of Victor David Hansen who was discussing General Patten. He had a very bad reputation as did General Curtis LeMay. But it turns out that if Eisenhower and Ridgeway had listened to Patten he would have shortened the war and probably saved 400,000 lives. Seem like most of the other Generals didn't like Patten because he was a rich man that came from a filthy rich family and was a college football and polo champion.

Did General Curtis LeMay have a bad reputation? Certainly he didn't
within SAC.


If you don't know anything about the world around you why are you commenting all of the time? Curtis LeMay loaded the entire American bomber fleet full of napalm and dropped it on Japanese industrial centers which burning alive all of the men, women and children in those areas and destroying 80% of the industrial base of Japan. He could have burned Japan back into the stone age if Truman didn't give orders to drop the nuclear bombs. There would have been absolutely no way for the Japanese to provide even the simplest things for daily life and none of the simplest farming implements could have been made.

For someone that claims to have been in the ****ing Air Force since the Air Force began, perhaps you ought to at least know something about it you nitwit.
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Old May 28th 21, 02:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/27/2021 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:05:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/27/2021 8:57 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 4:56:06 PM UTC-5, wrote:
While Titanium is a good material, there are so many possibilities for an error in construction that it is probably a bad idea to buy an el cheap producto in that material.
Like buying an Airborne titanium frame? Like you did?
Question Russell, who founded Airborne?

Gen Ridgeway, 82d Division, 1942.


HA HA, I watched a podcast of Victor David Hansen who was discussing General Patten. He had a very bad reputation as did General Curtis LeMay. But it turns out that if Eisenhower and Ridgeway had listened to Patten he would have shortened the war and probably saved 400,000 lives. Seem like most of the other Generals didn't like Patten because he was a rich man that came from a filthy rich family and was a college football and polo champion.


Did General Curtis LeMay have a bad reputation? Certainly he didn't
within SAC.


And the Marines who fully appreciated not landing on Honshu
thanks largely to him and Leslie Groves.

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Open every day since 1 April, 1971


 




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