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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
I came across an interesting paper today:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...omparisons.pdf Unfortunately there's no recent data pertaining to cyclists, however table 4 has the following three comparaisions from 1985/1986: Fatalities per million kms: Pedestrians - 16.12 Cyclists - 4.24 OK, so give that cyclists cover four times the distance of pedestrians that's probably not surprising. I'm expecting accidents per million hours to be about even. Fatalities per million hours: Pedestrians - 0.68 Cyclists - 0.42 Fatalities per million passenger trips: Pedestrian - 0.17 Cyclists - 0.10 So back in the mid eighties cycling was safer than walking by quite a bit. -- Cheers | ~~ __@ Euan | ~~ _-\, Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*) |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
Euan wrote:
I came across an interesting paper today: http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...omparisons.pdf Unfortunately there's no recent data pertaining to cyclists, however table 4 has the following three comparaisions from 1985/1986: Fatalities per million kms: Pedestrians - 16.12 Cyclists - 4.24 OK, so give that cyclists cover four times the distance of pedestrians that's probably not surprising. I'm expecting accidents per million hours to be about even. Fatalities per million hours: Pedestrians - 0.68 Cyclists - 0.42 Fatalities per million passenger trips: Pedestrian - 0.17 Cyclists - 0.10 So back in the mid eighties cycling was safer than walking by quite a bit. Granted, but in that 20 year period the number of cars on the world's roads has doubled (500 million to one billion). The fatality figures are probably not significantly different for Australia, where development of the road system has (sort of) kept up with this, but would be in the Third World where the infrastructure is worse. It would be interesting to get some more up to date figures. On my last available estimates (2003) the Motor Car was directly responsible for 1.2 million deaths per annum worldwide (600,000 of these were in China). Thus, as a Weapon of Mass Destruction, the Car has some way to go to catch up with the Hand-Gun (three million deaths). Source: Time Magazine, 2004 Cheers, Ray |
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ray wrote:
Granted, but in that 20 year period the number of cars on the world's roads has doubled (500 million to one billion). The fatality figures are probably not significantly different for Australia, where development of the road system has (sort of) kept up with this, but would be in the Third World where the infrastructure is worse. How do our fatalities compare to the USA? I'm just aware that the USA has about 3,600 killed per month. contrast with the figure mentioned on ABC Road to Peking where he was horrified that 3,500 were killed per month on Russian roads. |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
ray wrote:
Euan wrote: I came across an interesting paper today: http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...omparisons.pdf Unfortunately there's no recent data pertaining to cyclists, however table 4 has the following three comparaisions from 1985/1986: Fatalities per million kms: Pedestrians - 16.12 Cyclists - 4.24 OK, so give that cyclists cover four times the distance of pedestrians that's probably not surprising. I'm expecting accidents per million hours to be about even. Fatalities per million hours: Pedestrians - 0.68 Cyclists - 0.42 Fatalities per million passenger trips: Pedestrian - 0.17 Cyclists - 0.10 So back in the mid eighties cycling was safer than walking by quite a bit. Granted, but in that 20 year period the number of cars on the world's roads has doubled (500 million to one billion). Hence the question in the subject. I've not been able to track down any more recent data. -- Cheers | ~~ __@ Euan | ~~ _-\, Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*) |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:48:30 GMT, Euan wrote:
So back in the mid eighties cycling was safer than walking by quite a bit. Yes but the figures are rather meaningless because cycling and pedestrian fatalities are often completely different sorts of accidents. There was one study of pedestrian deaths in Sydney that found they happen most on Friday and Saturday night, and Taylor Square and Kings Cross made up quite a lot of them i.e. drunks were staggering out pubs located on busy intersections against the lights and getting run over. Kids and the elderly were more likely to killed crossing during the day. It doesn't really tell me whether I am safer walking or cycling to the train station in the morning. The answer I would give though is walking is safer, and must be logically. Walking on footpaths and only cross the road at convient points must be safer than spending all your time on the road, in roundabout and intersections (where most road accidents happen) having cars overtaking you at high speed. Im my experience I have walked to the station most weekdays for 25 years and never had a single close call. Yet have had two close calls in the last 12 months only riding a couple of times a week. I don't cycle because I think it is safer, or going to save the planet. I cycle because it allows me to travel distances that I can't walk, get some exercise and I hate driving but most of all because I simply like cycling and the risk is worth it to me. dewatf. |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
dewatf wrote:
I don't cycle because I think it is safer, or going to save the planet. I cycle because it allows me to travel distances that I can't walk, get some exercise and I hate driving but most of all because I simply like cycling and the risk is worth it to me. The point is that many cyclists over-exaggerate the risks of cycling. Heck, going by the figures in that report cycling's safer than being a passenger in a car (but not a driver.) -- Cheers | ~~ __@ Euan | ~~ _-\, Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*) |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
Euan wrote: I came across an interesting paper today: http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...omparisons.pdf Unfortunately there's no recent data pertaining to cyclists, however table 4 has the following three comparaisions from 1985/1986: Fatalities per million kms: Pedestrians - 16.12 Cyclists - 4.24 *snip* Are there any statistics breaking it down into sober vs drunk? I wonder what proportion of the ped fatalities are from intoxicated people staggering out into traffic, or falling asleep in the middle of the road. While there are certainly drunk cyclists out there, I think they're more likely to be on foot or car. I'd be interested in seeing statistics for regular non-intoxicated drivers who aren't driving at ludicrously unsafe speeds. i.e. how much danger am I really taking on myself when I ride to work rather than drive, given that I don't engage in any noteworthy high risk behaviours. Travis |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
Travis Wrote: Euan wrote: I came across an interesting paper today: http://tinyurl.com/qvyxk Unfortunately there's no recent data pertaining to cyclists, however table 4 has the following three comparaisions from 1985/1986: Fatalities per million kms: Pedestrians - 16.12 Cyclists - 4.24 *snip* Are there any statistics breaking it down into sober vs drunk? I wonder what proportion of the ped fatalities are from intoxicated people staggering out into traffic, or falling asleep in the middle of the road. While there are certainly drunk cyclists out there, I think they're more likely to be on foot or car. TravisIn addition to a breakdown in sober/less than sober, for the pedestrian figures to be meaningful age and fitness/health/mobility is necessary. Not many bikes being ridden by preschoolers or in preference to the zimmer frame. ali -- alison_b |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
alison_b wrote:
Not many bikes being ridden by preschoolers or in preference to the zimmer frame. Typical!, just because you use two wheels, you have this bias against quadracycles. In case you haven't noticed you young whipper snapper you, my zimmer frame has four wheels and dual hand brakes {:-) and I don't have to wear a h*lm*t nananananananananana! |
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Is riding a bicycle still safer than walking?
On 2006-06-03, Terryc (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: alison_b wrote: Not many bikes being ridden by preschoolers or in preference to the zimmer frame. Typical!, just because you use two wheels, you have this bias against quadracycles. In case you haven't noticed you young whipper snapper you, my zimmer frame has four wheels and dual hand brakes {:-) and I don't have to wear a h*lm*t nananananananananana! No, you're papa, not nana! -- TimC When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. |
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