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SYD: bicycles on the Old Road
In aus.bicycle on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:25:58 +1100
ritcho wrote: judgement. Nevertheless ,the Old Pac. Hwy is still a public road with a reduced speed limit for a reason, and it isn't because bicycles use it. It's because too many wannabe car and moto racers hurled themselves into trees, rockfaces and each other. Were those bods going at the previous speed limit? Or were they riding above that limit? Zebee |
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
Were those bods going at the previous speed limit? Or were they riding above that limit? I can safely bet my last breath that they would have been above it. Goof balls somehow manage to collide with trees on straight sections of road and the poor trees get blamed for causing their death. It really is a pity that police estimates of speed before the accident are not made public as routine. If you drove the old Pacific Highway at the old limits, including curve advisories there was exceedingly little chance of you having an accident that was caused by yourself. Occassionally you did need to drive lower because the prevailing conditions required it, e.g. Morning/late night fog over Mooney bridge was always a good one. |
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On 2006-02-28, Terry Collins (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Zebee Johnstone wrote: Were those bods going at the previous speed limit? Or were they riding above that limit? I can safely bet my last breath that they would have been above it. Goof balls somehow manage to collide with trees on straight sections of road and the poor trees get blamed for causing their death. Don't worry. They've solved that problem. Signs with "trees close to road" -- TimC Some witty text here, can be any number of lines long |
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Peter Signorini wrote:
I hurl volumes of silent abuse, and thank God I never took up such a socially obnoxious pursuit as motorbiking. Get my drift? Yes Peter, I do. Do you really think all motorcyclists are socially obnoxious? I don't believe I am, I don't believe Zebee is, or Bleve. Do you think I become non-obnoxious when I get on one of my bicycles? Theo |
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"Theo Bekkers" wrote: Do you think I become non-obnoxious when I get on one of my bicycles? Theo sticks out chin... ;-) -- Shane Stanley |
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In aus.bicycle on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:30:17 +1100
Terry Collins wrote: Zebee Johnstone wrote: Were those bods going at the previous speed limit? Or were they riding above that limit? I can safely bet my last breath that they would have been above it. Goof balls somehow manage to collide with trees on straight sections of road and the poor trees get blamed for causing their death. It is quite likely that they were doing Very Silly Speeds. Although not all of them - I have come adrift on the Old Road, and I was doing under the limit. And not particularly hooning which is damned annoying! However, if most of them were doing well over the limit, then what does dropping said limit gain anyone? Isn't going to stop the idiots who were breaking the law before. Zebee |
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"Theo Bekkers" wrote: Peter Signorini wrote: I hurl volumes of silent abuse, and thank God I never took up such a socially obnoxious pursuit as motorbiking. Get my drift? Yes Peter, I do. Do you really think all motorcyclists are socially obnoxious? No reflection on you personally Zebee, I'm sure you're a responsible rider, but any who behave as I described certainly are socially obnoxoius. On the Reefton Spur Rd on a typical Sunday that's an awful lot of them. Yes the behaviour of a few may be colouring my opinion, but those few behave damn dangerously towards me on the roads. Go up the Reefton Spur one day - you'll see frequent little memorial crosses and flowers on the roadside to ex-motorcyclists. Cheers Peter |
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Peter Signorini wrote: "Theo Bekkers" wrote: Peter Signorini wrote: I hurl volumes of silent abuse, and thank God I never took up such a socially obnoxious pursuit as motorbiking. Get my drift? Yes Peter, I do. Do you really think all motorcyclists are socially obnoxious? No reflection on you personally Zebee, I'm sure you're a responsible rider, but any who behave as I described certainly are socially obnoxoius. On the Reefton Spur Rd on a typical Sunday that's an awful lot of them. No more obnoxious than the Hell Ride riders who play at road racing on Beach Rd! There's dickheads in every group, no matter what they have as a common factor, beit motorcycling, bike riding, driving landbarges ... For what it's worth, I use a motorbike as my other transport (mainly pushbike, the MB gets a run every week or so when necessary to cover long distances faster than my pushy can go!). I don't endanger any cyclists when I ride it, and your calling motorbiking socially obnoxious is one I take offence to. I ride a motorbike because it's a lot less damaging to the environment than a car, but it's my compromise to practicality. It's *more* responsible (or less irresponsible!) than a car. All generalisations are wrong, remember? |
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Theo Bekkers wrote:
Yes Peter, I do. Do you really think all motorcyclists are socially obnoxious? I don't believe I am, I don't believe Zebee is, or Bleve. Do you think I become non-obnoxious when I get on one of my bicycles? Yes, bicycle seats don't put pressure on the "obnoxious" pressure points like motorcycle seats do {:-) |
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"Bleve" wrote: There's dickheads in every group, no matter what they have as a common factor, beit motorcycling, bike riding, driving landbarges ... Yes, agree muchly. For what it's worth, I use a motorbike as my other transport (mainly pushbike, the MB gets a run every week or so when necessary to cover long distances faster than my pushy can go!). I don't endanger any cyclists when I ride it, and your calling motorbiking socially obnoxious is one I take offence to. I accept that it is a personal call about transport type, and as long as it's done responsibly I don't bitch too much. I'm not trying to make a generalisation against all motorcyclists, only those GP-wannabees who shave my elbow, crackling their ear-splitting exhausts. No offence meant to people on this group. I ride a motorbike because it's a lot less damaging to the environment than a car, but it's my compromise to practicality. It's *more* responsible (or less irresponsible!) than a car. I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. Note also that I drive a Commodore, and I believe I drive it responsibly. I have two kids, and we often take trips with camping gear and bikes, so the space is valauble. Recently I have been commuting 2-5 days per week so the Commode/Stinkadore/etc doesn't clog the roads and air as much. I have often noted many disparaging comments from posters here about Commodore drivers but, until now, have not found it necessary to take them to task over any offence caused to me. All generalisations are wrong, remember? As you say. Cheers Peter |
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