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Well, all helmets meet the same standards, and I don't think those
standards have changed since the "Which" article was written. The Which article noted a tendency for helmets that meet the European std not to meet the American standard, and vice versa, but some did meet both. The best rule is NOT to get a "good one". What makes a helmet "good" is usually being lighter and cooler than a cheap helmet. This is achieved by using as little styrofoam as possible, so an expensive helmet is probably even less protective than a cheap helmet, even though both meet the same stds. There is some question about whether it really is necessary to replace a helmet every x years as some people recommend. In practice the styrofoam is unlikely to degrade from UV radiation. However, one current theory about why helmets are so ineffective in practice is that they are not kept tightly enough in position. It might be, so the theory goes, that putting on and taking off a helmet over and over again gradually compresses the material inside, thus making the helmet loose. The same theory emphasizes that the chin strap MUST be kept tight. If you can open your mouth to talk, the strap is probably too loose. Adding a helmet to your head makes it larger and heavier than normal, thus upsetting your reflexes that move your head out of the way of impacts. Thus you will hit your head more with a helmet than you would without. This doesn't matter though, because of that very helmet. Don't assume, though, that in the impacts you are now having the helmet is saving your life. Jeremy Parker |
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In article , Mitch Haley wrote:
Trudi Marrapodi wrote: In article , (Frank Krygowski) wrote: Helmet fans say "Any fall off a bike can kill you." Not necessarily. I fell off mine but good today--but despite being badly scraped up, was nowhere near being killed. For one thing, I fell sideways, Sounds like you know how to fall. (a skill worth more than any bike helmet, as falling without bashing your head negates any need for the helmet) Well, I don't realy recall having time to think about how to fall, but maybe something about how I positioned myself instictively when I fell made a difference. I did learn "how to fall" when skating, and what you learn about that is that a) going limp is the best way to resist injury and b) it is better to fall on your butt, if at all possible, than to fall on anything else. In this case, I couldn't fall on my butt, and I did instictively put my hands out and that could have resulted in bad things for my arms and wrists, but in the end all I got was some light hand abrasions, and as a result my head was nowhere near any sort of impact. I know of at least one young woman who died after a club ride. She rode into the parking lot, and tipped over onto flat pavement. Hit headfirst and died. I don't know if she was wearing a helmet. How awful. Maybe she didn't have time to react at all when she went down. Another example, somebody I knew: Elderly couple (~80 yrs) on tandem. Dog took out front wheel. Fell over sideways, stoker pretty much had her skull shattered, spent weeks in the hospital. Was promoted as a "helmet saved a life" incident in the club we were in at the time. The helmet was, IIRC, a Bell Tourlight. You simply can't find anything as effective as that helmet marketed for road cycling today. I can't see where it did her any noticeable good, a fall without it would have broken her skull, as did a fall with it. Mitch. This stuff is frightening. I guess I was luckier than I thought. -- Trudi "Closed Due to Blackout. Pray for the Chocolate!" --sign in Cleveland store, 8/14/03 ____ Say NO to secret judging and corruption in skating -- support SkateFAIR! http://www.skatefair.org |
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In article et, "Rick"
wrote: ...stuff deleted It was not fun. My chain had come off the spokes and I had to put it back on (did I have wipes handy for the grease? No). And I was scraped up and bruised unpleasantly, although fortunately nothing bled. Must be that time of year (i.e. hard riding in summer means tune-ups in fall). Not to mention which, my bike is frankly rather cheap. I've been told that unless I invest in a pricier bike, this will probably happen quite a bit. I threw a chain yesterday as well. I've learned to remount them using the toe of my shoe. I have some godawfully ugly shoes, but clean handlebar tape (grin). Can you teach the technique? There must be an art to it. I'd love to know; chain grease has to be one of THE toughest things to get off hands (not to mention what it does to your handlebars). Fortunately for me, I was sitting at the time, not standing on the pegs and came off with only the routine calf bruise. I've let the maintenance lag a little too long, for once. Sounds like a long sit in a hot tub will help a lot Trudy. Mend quickly. Rick Thanks. I plan to give it a try. Right leg looks like hell today! -- Trudi "Closed Due to Blackout. Pray for the Chocolate!" --sign in Cleveland store, 8/14/03 ____ Say NO to secret judging and corruption in skating -- support SkateFAIR! http://www.skatefair.org |
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Can you teach the technique? There must be an art to it. I'd love to know; chain grease has to be one of THE toughest things to get off hands (not to mention what it does to your handlebars). It isn't hard, but it takes a little patience to learn. Put the toe of the shoe on the underside of the chain and pull the chain toward the front of the bike. As the chain reaches the apex of the smallest sprocket, lower it so that it engages on the top. The tricky part follows in that you have to release the chain from the toe of the shoe without dislodging the chain from the sprocket. At this point, the chain is usually half-on (though in rare instances, it works perfectly) and needs a spin to completely engage the chain. Took a few tries to get it down and always takes 2 or 3 attempts as I often bump the crank and dislodge the chain, but it does work. Rick |
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In article . net, "Rick"
wrote: ...stuff deleted Can you teach the technique? There must be an art to it. I'd love to know; chain grease has to be one of THE toughest things to get off hands (not to mention what it does to your handlebars). It isn't hard, but it takes a little patience to learn. Put the toe of the shoe on the underside of the chain and pull the chain toward the front of the bike. As the chain reaches the apex of the smallest sprocket, lower it so that it engages on the top. The tricky part follows in that you have to release the chain from the toe of the shoe without dislodging the chain from the sprocket. At this point, the chain is usually half-on (though in rare instances, it works perfectly) and needs a spin to completely engage the chain. Took a few tries to get it down and always takes 2 or 3 attempts as I often bump the crank and dislodge the chain, but it does work. Rick Thanks! I'll give it a try next time. -- Trudi "Closed Due to Blackout. Pray for the Chocolate!" --sign in Cleveland store, 8/14/03 ____ Say NO to secret judging and corruption in skating -- support SkateFAIR! http://www.skatefair.org |
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In article , Mitch Haley wrote:
Trudi Marrapodi wrote: How awful. Maybe she didn't have time to react at all when she went down. I just assumed she was the typical young American who had such a protected childhood that she never really learned how to fall. I'd like to see all the little couch potatoes enrolled in karate or gymnastics classes somewhere around 6-10 years of age. Another possibility is that she was busy trying to unclip her shoe all the way down. Well, I wasn't wearing clips...actually, I threw a sandal! This stuff is frightening. I guess I was luckier than I thought. Well, people have been falling down for thousands of years without often dying, but there is a fair amount of energy involved. I think both the examples I mentioned were mentionable because of their rarity. I suspect that Emily's bones were old enough to be a lot more fragile than they once were, and you do seem to go down hard and fast when a dog takes out the front wheel. The other incident was described to me as a new rider who forgot to unclip when stopping. I've done the same, but both times it happened to me I mainly landed on my hip and shoulder, although I lost some skin on my knee and elbow the time I did it on tarmac. Mitch. How exactly *does* a dog take out the front wheel? Why would a dog just run right into someone's bike? I know that's probably a dumb question, but... -- Trudi "Closed Due to Blackout. Pray for the Chocolate!" --sign in Cleveland store, 8/14/03 ____ Say NO to secret judging and corruption in skating -- support SkateFAIR! http://www.skatefair.org |
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Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
How exactly *does* a dog take out the front wheel? Why would a dog just run right into someone's bike? I know that's probably a dumb question, but... Chasing dogs are sometimes more sucessful than they intend to be. The ones with herding instinct will try to push your front wheel if they get the chance. I've had a couple run into my back wheel with no real problem, you just feel the bike twitch when the dog's shoulder bumps the tire. If they try to run in front of you and hit the front wheel, the bike steers out from under you on the side away from the dog, and you fall towards the dog. I'm afraid of losing my front wheel (I once did a major face plant when I broke a fork, had to wear a neck brace for a while and still have the scar on my forehead) so I hit the brakes if it looks like the dog can head me off. Mitch. |
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