Hit and Run Drivers: Most Wanted Terrorists

Talking about cats and dogs, I think they have more rights than
cyclists. It seems you can't treat cats and dogs the way they treat
cyclists. It would be animal cruely. Even where they become a pest,
it's a crime to exterminate them.

I wished we were treated like animals.

Studemania wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:45 am, BrianNZ wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:22 pm, BrianNZ wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Jesus, we are looking for terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan .....
If Jesus happened today, he would be a terrorist........
He was terrorizing Rome, right?
Or was it that others felt scared of him (what he could achieve?)



Whoever is in power uses the term and decides who is, and who is not a
terrorist. For example, it used to be that insurgents in Afghanistan
were "Freedom Fighters," and when they fight America... voila, they
are terrorists!
Same for anyone living in an occupied country....Would Americans accept
a foreign army in their country? Or would there be a bit of resistance?



So I think we need a better definition, which I describe here...
Gus wrote:
Hit and run drivers are the worst, but you loose me by calling them
“terrorists.”
The name “terrorist” should be applied to all those who are coward
enough not to face the consequence of their actions. And these are the
domestic variety of international terrorists, perhaps a little bit
lower because they are selfish terrorists who are unwilling to die.
Perhaps all bullies and drunk drivers deserve the name too.
Sod off...terrorist already has a meaning....it doesn't need to be
redefined to fit your agenda. Go find another word if terrorist doesn't fit.

The person who scratched my old Corolla and left w/o leaving a note
was, it seems, a "hit-and-run driver."


Probably a cyclist! I hope you aren't still living in terror of
recieving another scratch?

On Dec 20, 2:45*pm, BrianNZ wrote:

Perhaps all bullies and drunk drivers deserve the name too.

Sod off...terrorist already has a meaning....it doesn't need to be
redefined to fit your agenda. Go find another word if terrorist doesn't fit.

I know some of you may be thinking that my choice of word was casual,
perhaps reckless, but there are PRACTICAL REASONS FOR STICKING TO THE
WORD TERRORIST.

For example, we may be able to fit TRAFFIC SAFETY UNDER THE BUDGET OF
HOME SECURITY. (Since all the money is going to fight terrorism and
not traffic safety.) And then we may just get by (of course,
discreetly) with putting ORANGE SUITS ON HIT-AND-RUN DRIVERS.

And I know what you all thinking... HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE TERRORIFIC
METHODS USED BY BUSH AGAINST TERRORISTS? No way, we refuse to use
torture.

In article ,
wrote:

but from the point of view of a cyclist, careless drivers are creating
an undue fear; before an act of criminality, there is the terror of
becoming a victim by virtue of engaging in a normal activity.

Sorry, but your cowardice is not justification for restriction of my
activities. Or, in simpler terms: Man up, you pussy.

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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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Miami-Dade County bus driver charged with hit-and-run
BY RODOLFO ROMAN
Special to The Miami Herald
A Miami-Dade County Transit bus driver has been charged in a hit-and
run accident involving a bicyclist in Bal Harbour and then telling
passengers not to talk to authorities about it, police said.

According to police, the driver William G. Clarke, 57, hit Bay Harbour
Islands* resident Nicolas Oscar Saravia, 32, who was riding his bike
in the 9700 block of Collins Avenue about 4:30 p.m. Monday.

''Passengers told him to stop, but he kept driving,'' Bal Harbour Sgt.
Mike Daddario said.

``At that point, he had knowledge and should've rendered aid.''

Clarke was driving in the southbound lane when he hit Saravia.

A motorist trailing the bus called police, and the bus was pulled over
in nearby Surfside.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miam...ry/819038.html

The bus driver's real crime was being an idiot. A collection of strangers
on a bus and motorists who witness such an incident have no incentive to
cover it up.

The Lizard

On Dec 20, 11:11*am, wrote:

but from the point of view of a cyclist, careless drivers are creating
an undue fear; before an act of criminality, there is the terror of
becoming a victim by virtue of engaging in a normal activity.

Er, the "normal" activity you're enganging in means that you're
*willingly* placing yourself in the position of being the most
vulnerable vehicle on the road. And then you say "But I shouldn't have
to exposed to risks just because I choose to do this dangerous thing".

This places you in the same ethical position as a rock climber who
thinks God should negate gravity so that he won't fall while engaged
in doing something he enjoys.

Listen up: if you choose to undertake a risky hobby, you'd better be
prepared to accept the responsibility for the predictable results of
same: and this includes things such as drunk and/or innattentive
drivers. You *knew* they were out there on the roads before you ever
threw a leg over the saddle, and imagining that anything is going to
change just because you choose to put yourself in harm's way is
sophomoric at best.

There are essentially two sorts of people in the world: Those who look
at reality and deal with it as it is: risky and uncaring, and those
who think that the world should change to make life more appealing for
*them*.

We call the first sort "survivors", and we call the second sort "you".

On Dec 20, 5:24*pm, Twibil wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:11*am, wrote:

but from the point of view of a cyclist, careless drivers are creating
an undue fear; before an act of criminality, there is the terror of
becoming a victim by virtue of engaging in a normal activity.

Er, the "normal" activity you're enganging in means that you're
*willingly* placing yourself in the position of being the most
vulnerable vehicle on the road. And then you say "But I shouldn't have
to exposed to risks just because I choose to do this dangerous thing".

This places you in the same ethical position as a rock climber who
thinks God should negate gravity so that he won't fall while engaged
in doing something he enjoys.

Listen up: if you choose to undertake a risky hobby, you'd better be
prepared to accept the responsibility for the predictable results of
same: and this includes things such as drunk and/or innattentive
drivers. You *knew* they were out there on the roads before you ever
threw a leg over the saddle, and imagining that anything is going to
change just because you choose to put yourself in harm's way is
sophomoric at best.

There are essentially two sorts of people in the world: Those who look
at reality and deal with it as it is: risky and uncaring, and those
who think that the world should change to make life more appealing for
*them*.

We call the first sort "survivors", and we call the second sort "you".

oh hell, I was just expounding on the ops use of the term terrorist.
but it's cool, I don't care; I've managed deal with careless or
dangerous drivers in an appropiate manner. The court of law can be a
very rewarding place. claim psychological damages and all that, you
know ?

On Dec 20, 4:49*pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...







Miami-Dade County bus driver charged with hit-and-run
BY RODOLFO ROMAN
Special to The Miami Herald
A Miami-Dade County Transit bus driver has been charged in a hit-and
run accident involving a bicyclist in Bal Harbour and then telling
passengers not to talk to authorities about it, police said.

According to police, the driver William G. Clarke, 57, hit Bay Harbour
Islands* resident Nicolas Oscar Saravia, 32, who was riding his bike
in the 9700 block of Collins Avenue about 4:30 p.m. Monday.

''Passengers told him to stop, but he kept driving,'' Bal Harbour Sgt.
Mike Daddario said.

``At that point, he had knowledge and should've rendered aid.''

Clarke was driving in the southbound lane when he hit Saravia.

A motorist trailing the bus called police, and the bus was pulled over
in nearby Surfside.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miam...ry/819038.html

The bus driver's real crime was being an idiot. *A collection of strangers
on a bus and motorists who witness such an incident have no incentive to
cover it up.

The Lizard- Hide quoted text -

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Hey, how about the other accident where the lady went back to the
scene of the crime.

OK, these are the activities that qualify for ROAD TERRORISM:

1- Talking on the phone while driving an SUV (most SUV drivers are)

2- Drinking and driving while driving any other vehicle than a bicycle
or motorcycle

3- Bicycles may terrorize pedestrians on sidewalk too

4- Bullying people, playing vigilante

TERROR IS TERROR and they got to know that "Big Brother is Watching
You"...

On Dec 20, 5:24*pm, Twibil wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:11*am, wrote:

but from the point of view of a cyclist, careless drivers are creating
an undue fear; before an act of criminality, there is the terror of
becoming a victim by virtue of engaging in a normal activity.

Er, the "normal" activity you're enganging in means that you're
*willingly* placing yourself in the position of being the most
vulnerable vehicle on the road. And then you say "But I shouldn't have
to exposed to risks just because I choose to do this dangerous thing".

This places you in the same ethical position as a rock climber who
thinks God should negate gravity so that he won't fall while engaged
in doing something he enjoys.

Listen up: if you choose to undertake a risky hobby, you'd better be
prepared to accept the responsibility for the predictable results of
same: and this includes things such as drunk and/or innattentive
drivers. You *knew* they were out there on the roads before you ever
threw a leg over the saddle, and imagining that anything is going to
change just because you choose to put yourself in harm's way is
sophomoric at best.

There are essentially two sorts of people in the world: Those who look
at reality and deal with it as it is: risky and uncaring, and those
who think that the world should change to make life more appealing for
*them*.

We call the first sort "survivors", and we call the second sort "you".

Hey, you may choose to change reality as well, even if it is that of
the jungle. It's called "change" or "revolution,"
because it's not fair that the little ones are always intimidated
particularly when they are doing the right thing.

In Holland there's room for them without CIVILIZED VIOLENCE.

In article ,
Twibil writes:
On Dec 20, 11:11*am, wrote:
but from the point of view of a cyclist, careless drivers are creating
an undue fear; before an act of criminality, there is the terror of
becoming a victim by virtue of engaging in a normal activity.
Er, the "normal" activity you're enganging in means that you're
*willingly* placing yourself in the position of being the most
vulnerable vehicle on the road.

In terms of collision-related injury stats, POV cars are
among the most vulnerable vehicles, along with murdercycles.
Statistically it's more deadly to be a pedestrian than a
cyclist or a driver. And that makes sense -- bicyclists
have more manoueverable advantages than the foot-bound or
motor-bound, and have necessarily learned to be the more
situationally aware.

Most bicyclists don't want to get run-over or killed, and
take pains to not attain those conditions. I guess that
goes against the usual drivers' anti-cyclist propaganda.


And then you say "But I shouldn't have
to exposed to risks just because I choose to do this dangerous thing".
This places you in the same ethical position as a rock climber who
thinks God should negate gravity so that he won't fall while engaged
in doing something he enjoys.

People should be able to access the streets & roads without
getting clobbered by the stupidity of other street & road users.

Listen up: if you choose to undertake a risky hobby, you'd better be
prepared to accept the responsibility for the predictable results of
same: and this includes things such as drunk and/or innattentive
drivers.

If you choose to undertake such a risky hobby as driving a car,
perhaps you should heed your own above advice.

[...]

There are essentially two sorts of people in the world:

Yeah. Right.



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