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Australian Design Standards ( Helmets )
On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a much
cheaper price than I would get it here. However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet is not approved for Australian Roads. However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ? Whats the story with this issue. Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards. I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous. Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and have an accident ? Thanks for any feedback on this. Ian |
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"Ian Jey" wrote in message ... On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a much cheaper price than I would get it here. However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet is not approved for Australian Roads. However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ? Whats the story with this issue. Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards. I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous. Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and have an accident ? Thanks for any feedback on this. Ian Hmm This question seems to pop up every week. The general answer is that it hasn't been approved because it hasn't been submitted for approval. It hasn't been submitted for approval because it costs about $30 000 to go through the testing and approval process and the manufacturers/suppliers don't think they'll sell enough to cover the costs. However, just because it isn't approved doesn't mean it isn't a good helmet or won't meet the Australian Standards. Marty |
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Ian Jey Wrote: On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and much cheaper price than I would get it here. However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that thi helmet is not approved for Australian Roads. However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ? Whats the story with this issue. Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards. I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I a sure Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous. Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helme and have an accident ? Thanks for any feedback on this. Ian The helmet probably does meet the Australian Standard but th distributor or manufacturer has to pay to get the particular mode certified. (which means you don't know if it complies or not). If you are injured and your helmet does not comply, it gives an insure a reason to deny you a claim. Ritc -- ritcho |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 at 04:21 GMT, ritcho (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: Ian Jey Wrote: Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and have an accident ? Thanks for any feedback on this. Ian The helmet probably does meet the Australian Standard but the distributor or manufacturer has to pay to get the particular model certified. (which means you don't know if it complies or not). If you are injured and your helmet does not comply, it gives an insurer a reason to deny you a claim. Read also the issue ~ lastweek with the person who got pulled over and booked by the Police because the helmet didn't satisfy the .au standards. -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ Er, RFC 882 put the dot in .com. |
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Ian Jey wrote:
On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, and a much cheaper price than I would get it here. However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that this helmet is not approved for Australian Roads. However I have a Giro Eclipse which is ? Whats the story with this issue. Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australian standards. I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I am sure Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous. Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear this helmet and have an accident ? Thanks for any feedback on this. Ian Hi Ian I see that the Giro helmets meet US and European standards. According to the Qld TORUM Regulations: "approved bicycle helmet" means a helmet that complies with -- (a) AS 2063.1 and 2063.2; or (b) another standard the chief executive considers is at least equal to that standard. I don't think there is an AS 2063.1 any more. When I looked on the Australian Standards site AS 2063.1 had become AS 2063. I've written to Qld Transport to ask whether the chief executive has approved any other standards. It doesn't appear that the minister has to approve of this change. I'd be writing to my local state/territory MP if I was you. Tell him/her that you have this top notch helmet from the US but can't be sure whether you can wear it in Australia. Ask whether helmets conforming with the United States CPSC safety standard for bicycle helmets and/or the the European Personal Protective Equipment Directive 89/686/EEC are approved for use in your state/territory. If they aren't, ask "why not?" From what I understand, the history of the Australian standard has been to act as more of a trade barrier and protect local manufacturers than to provide additional safety protection to cyclists. Peter -- Peter McCallum Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA |
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Peter McCallum Wrote: Ian Jey wrote On a recent trip to the USA I bought myself a Giro Atmos Helmet, an a muc cheaper price than I would get it here However after reading some posts a while back, it seems that thi helmet i not approved for Australian Roads However I have a Giro Eclipse which is Whats the story with this issue Why wouldn't the top of the line helmet not meet Australia standards I mean , I am sure it is very safe in the event of a crash, as I a sur Lance Armstrong wouldn't wear it if it were dangerous Whats the issue, and what implications do I have if I wear thi helmet an have an accident Thanks for any feedback on this Ia Hi Ia I see that the Giro helmets meet US and European standards According to the Qld TORUM Regulations "approved bicycle helmet" means a helmet that complies with - (a) AS 2063.1 and 2063.2; o (b) another standard the chief executive considers is at least equal t that standard I don't think there is an AS 2063.1 any more. When I looked on th Australian Standards site AS 2063.1 had become AS 2063. I've written t Qld Transport to ask whether the chief executive has approved any othe standards It doesn't appear that the minister has to approve of this change I'd be writing to my local state/territory MP if I was you. Tel him/he that you have this top notch helmet from the US but can't be sur whether you can wear it in Australia. Ask whether helmets conformin with the United States CPSC safety standard for bicycle helmets and/o the the European Personal Protective Equipment Directive 89/686/EEC ar approved for use in your state/territory. If they aren't, ask "wh not? From what I understand, the history of the Australian standard has bee to act as more of a trade barrier and protect local manufacturers tha to provide additional safety protection to cyclists Pete - Peter McCallu Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Fre Trade Agreement negotiations Steve -- SteveA |
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SteveA wrote:
Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free Trade Agreement negotiations? SteveA No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to the PBS. -- Peter McCallum Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 at 07:37 GMT, Peter McCallum (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: SteveA wrote: Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free Trade Agreement negotiations? SteveA No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to the PBS. Yay! Another effect of the senate being rendered useless after July next year is that they will probably just go back to the original agreement, fsck over PBS, fsck over the Australian computer industry (same IP issue - the computer industry in America is the only industry that has the burden being subject of two Intellectual Property laws - patents are unnecessary and an enormous burden on software development; now Australia is going to have to put up with them as well). How's this for scary?: http://lists.essential.org/pipermail...ry/005844.html -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ "If you already know what recursion is, just remember the answer. Otherwise, find someone who is standing closer to Douglas Hofstadter than you are; then ask him or her what recursion is." -- Andrew "Zarf" Plotkin |
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"Peter McCallum" wrote in message om.au... SteveA wrote: Bugger, did we not get Giro Bike Helmets into the US/Australian Free Trade Agreement negotiations? SteveA No, I think you'll find they were blocked by the changes in regard to the PBS. -- Peter McCallum Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA Doesn't Australia make better helmets anyway? Marty |
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"Marty Wallace" wrote in message om.au... Doesn't Australia make better helmets anyway? Yay, Rosebank!! Much better than Met or Bell (NOT!) Cheers Peter |
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