Hypocrites: the UCI

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla Wrote:
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla

I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


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meb

MagillaGorilla Wrote:
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla

I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


--
meb

I agree with you 100%, Mr. Magilla. I'm still ****ed off about Virenque not
getting suspended for 2 yrs. He was a much more flagrant violator than
Millar.

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MagillaGorilla Wrote:
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla

I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


--
meb

I agree with you 100%, Mr. Magilla. I'm still ****ed off about Virenque not
getting suspended for 2 yrs. He was a much more flagrant violator than
Millar.

"meb" wrote in message
...

MagillaGorilla Wrote:
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla

I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


--
meb

meb wrote:

MagillaGorilla Wrote:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla


I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


The federations do not make the guilty determination on the riders -
that is done by WADA or the UCI. Once WADA or the UCI determines guilt
or innocence, it is up to the national federations to enforce it.

If a rider wants to appeal a decision from WADA/USADA or the UCI, they
can appeal to CAS.

Magilla

meb wrote:

MagillaGorilla Wrote:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla


I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


The federations do not make the guilty determination on the riders -
that is done by WADA or the UCI. Once WADA or the UCI determines guilt
or innocence, it is up to the national federations to enforce it.

If a rider wants to appeal a decision from WADA/USADA or the UCI, they
can appeal to CAS.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla Wrote:
meb wrote:

MagillaGorilla Wrote:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla


I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly
made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till
Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


The federations do not make the guilty determination on the riders -
that is done by WADA or the UCI. Once WADA or the UCI determines
guilt
or innocence, it is up to the national federations to enforce it.

If a rider wants to appeal a decision from WADA/USADA or the UCI, they
can appeal to CAS.

Magilla

UCI turned the Perez and Hamilton cases over to the national
entities-in Hamilton's case USADA. Not sure if jurisdiction was turned
over in their entirety or if USADA is merely acting as a special master
on behalf of UCI for a guilt determination phase only or if USADA has
been delegated sanctioning jurisdiction. USADA would certainly have
better molecular biology expertise than UCI on evaluating the test
data, accuracy, validity of the Vuelta test and evidence Tyler's team
might present.


--
meb

MagillaGorilla Wrote:
meb wrote:

MagillaGorilla Wrote:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla


I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly
made
a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till
Hamilton
(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


The federations do not make the guilty determination on the riders -
that is done by WADA or the UCI. Once WADA or the UCI determines
guilt
or innocence, it is up to the national federations to enforce it.

If a rider wants to appeal a decision from WADA/USADA or the UCI, they
can appeal to CAS.

Magilla

UCI turned the Perez and Hamilton cases over to the national
entities-in Hamilton's case USADA. Not sure if jurisdiction was turned
over in their entirety or if USADA is merely acting as a special master
on behalf of UCI for a guilt determination phase only or if USADA has
been delegated sanctioning jurisdiction. USADA would certainly have
better molecular biology expertise than UCI on evaluating the test
data, accuracy, validity of the Vuelta test and evidence Tyler's team
might present.


--
meb

meb wrote:

MagillaGorilla Wrote:

meb wrote:


MagillaGorilla Wrote:


http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html

What a joke: Cofidis gets chosen, but Phonak doesn't. Yet both
Hamilton
and Perez weren't even found guilty yet.

The UCI is destroying the sport with its prejudicial actions.

Magilla


I was under the impression that the Spanish federation had quickly

made

a guilty determination on Perez. Is that decision still pending?

Hamilton's hearing is January.

Seems best if they stayed a continued the team decisions till

Hamilton

(and Perez's hearing if still pending).


The federations do not make the guilty determination on the riders -
that is done by WADA or the UCI. Once WADA or the UCI determines
guilt
or innocence, it is up to the national federations to enforce it.

If a rider wants to appeal a decision from WADA/USADA or the UCI, they
can appeal to CAS.

Magilla


UCI turned the Perez and Hamilton cases over to the national
entities-in Hamilton's case USADA. Not sure if jurisdiction was turned
over in their entirety or if USADA is merely acting as a special master
on behalf of UCI for a guilt determination phase only or if USADA has
been delegated sanctioning jurisdiction. USADA would certainly have
better molecular biology expertise than UCI on evaluating the test
data, accuracy, validity of the Vuelta test and evidence Tyler's team
might present.


Don't kid yourself, USADA isn't going to tell WADA or the UCI the blood
transfusion test doesn't work. That's going to fall squarely upon
Tyler's experts.

Magilla