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Lie detector tests aren't admissible in civil or criminal courts, and
statistically they are nearly 90% accurate. The reason why some science isn't admissible even though it's almost always accurate is because certain applications get blind faith when it isn't merited. This will be a part of Tyler's argument, especially if he can't invalidate the science employed by the UCI. Tyler is going to file a lawsuit I guarantee it. The scientific methods that ultimately are presented to the jury will be determined by a judge after reviewing pre-trial motions to strike expert witness testimony. I'm not so sure it's safe to assume that the UCI's methods will ultimately be upheld by the arbitration panel. BTW, it will be a three judge panel, one appointed by Tyler, one appointed by the UCI and the third appointed by the consent of the first two (without input from the parties). "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Kurgan Gringioni wrote: MagillaGorilla wrote: snip The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a court of law. Dumbass - They're not going to throw the blood doper in jail. It's only bike racing. thanks, K. Gringioni. Dumbass, Ever hear of civil court? Magilla |
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MagillaGorilla wrote in message ...
Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. |
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MagillaGorilla wrote in message ...
Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
Who the hell is Cary Ellis? probably this guy: http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laur...s-autobio.html http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kmullis.htm |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
Who the hell is Cary Ellis? probably this guy: http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laur...s-autobio.html http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kmullis.htm |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction). And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't know how it works. The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range. So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom. Magilla |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction). And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't know how it works. The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range. So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom. Magilla |
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Tom's role here is to provide condescending lectures, Magilla. Tom is an
angry man. Tom break things when Tom mad. Tom no like Magilla. Magilla hide. Just kidding, Tom. "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Tom Kunich wrote: MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction). And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't know how it works. The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range. So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom. Magilla |
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Tom's role here is to provide condescending lectures, Magilla. Tom is an
angry man. Tom break things when Tom mad. Tom no like Magilla. Magilla hide. Just kidding, Tom. "MagillaGorilla" wrote in message ... Tom Kunich wrote: MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction). And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't know how it works. The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range. So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom. Magilla |
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
... Tom Kunich wrote: MagillaGorilla wrote in message ... Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their test is 100% infallible. Who the hell is Cary Ellis? DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests. Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA analysis works. Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you want to talk about. Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction). Kary worked for Cetus and left a little after I got there. I was told that he was so drugged up all the time that he was a danger to himself. And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't know how it works. As a clue - I designed the power supply for the first and second generation thermocyclers that makes the process possible. I just may have a little more knowledge of the science than you do. The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range. What you are suggesting that the test gives "false positives" because people don't know what they're looking at. Figures. So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom. For you, never a quicky, always a longy. |
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