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Old November 16th 04, 06:36 AM
Awestruck
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"Sierraman" wrote in message
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Yup, there are all over the place. When I stopped into the Cedar lodge in
Yosemite for a pepsi after a bike ride, There were a number of them

working
there. How do I know that? Because when the sheriff pulled up, some ran

for
cover and other peeked through the window observing carefully what the

agent
was up to. False alarm as he was stopping into the store for a soda. Coast
was clear for them but I should of turned them in. None of them speak
English. They are taking jobs away from locals and that's bad because jobs
are scarce in the area, as local kids need those jobs, and they would take
them too for extra money for school and such.



Poor people trying to feed themselves and/or families are not the ones
taking anyones jobs. It's the money-grubbing businesses that are giving
away those jobs.

Just about every thing manufactured these days is done overseas by low paid
oppressed working and living condition slave labor. When it's done in
front of your eyes here on a much smaller scale than what is occurring
overseas then there are all kinds of objections about it. Most ironically
the objections are going to the ones who are the most oppressed and have the
least power.



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Old November 16th 04, 08:21 AM
Sierraman
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"Awestruck" wrote in message
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"Sierraman" wrote in message
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Yup, there are all over the place. When I stopped into the Cedar lodge

in
Yosemite for a pepsi after a bike ride, There were a number of them

working
there. How do I know that? Because when the sheriff pulled up, some ran

for
cover and other peeked through the window observing carefully what the

agent
was up to. False alarm as he was stopping into the store for a soda.

Coast
was clear for them but I should of turned them in. None of them speak
English. They are taking jobs away from locals and that's bad because

jobs
are scarce in the area, as local kids need those jobs, and they would

take
them too for extra money for school and such.



Poor people trying to feed themselves and/or families are not the ones
taking anyones jobs. It's the money-grubbing businesses that are giving
away those jobs.


Yeah they are, and shame on those businesses that are cheating.

Just about every thing manufactured these days is done overseas by low

paid
oppressed working and living condition slave labor.


Just about.

When it's done in
front of your eyes here on a much smaller scale than what is occurring
overseas then there are all kinds of objections about it.


That's nonsense. I been watching this since I was a kid and have always
complained about illegals when I did some of these very jobs, and then later
in construction where there is tons of them. I have always known and
objected to it this way before outsourcing and unfair free trade practices
and you wouldn't want to get me started on outsourcing as I have followed
that closely for the last 4 years. Growing up California, the bread basket
of the world, I know all too well about this crap that has gone on all these
years, especially the San Joaquin valley.

Most ironically
the objections are going to the ones who are the most oppressed and have

the
least power.


That's often true.




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Old November 16th 04, 08:21 AM
Sierraman
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"Awestruck" wrote in message
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"Sierraman" wrote in message
...

Yup, there are all over the place. When I stopped into the Cedar lodge

in
Yosemite for a pepsi after a bike ride, There were a number of them

working
there. How do I know that? Because when the sheriff pulled up, some ran

for
cover and other peeked through the window observing carefully what the

agent
was up to. False alarm as he was stopping into the store for a soda.

Coast
was clear for them but I should of turned them in. None of them speak
English. They are taking jobs away from locals and that's bad because

jobs
are scarce in the area, as local kids need those jobs, and they would

take
them too for extra money for school and such.



Poor people trying to feed themselves and/or families are not the ones
taking anyones jobs. It's the money-grubbing businesses that are giving
away those jobs.


Yeah they are, and shame on those businesses that are cheating.

Just about every thing manufactured these days is done overseas by low

paid
oppressed working and living condition slave labor.


Just about.

When it's done in
front of your eyes here on a much smaller scale than what is occurring
overseas then there are all kinds of objections about it.


That's nonsense. I been watching this since I was a kid and have always
complained about illegals when I did some of these very jobs, and then later
in construction where there is tons of them. I have always known and
objected to it this way before outsourcing and unfair free trade practices
and you wouldn't want to get me started on outsourcing as I have followed
that closely for the last 4 years. Growing up California, the bread basket
of the world, I know all too well about this crap that has gone on all these
years, especially the San Joaquin valley.

Most ironically
the objections are going to the ones who are the most oppressed and have

the
least power.


That's often true.




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Old November 17th 04, 01:37 AM
Andy Gale
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Myo Jorn wrote:
The real problem is the ACLU. Because every
illegal-midnight-border-crosser knows that he has a lawyer in the US
ready and willing to fight for him. Of course the ACLU does a lot of
other heinous stuff to undermine American freedom,


This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on usenet.

Andy

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Old November 17th 04, 01:37 AM
Andy Gale
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Myo Jorn wrote:
The real problem is the ACLU. Because every
illegal-midnight-border-crosser knows that he has a lawyer in the US
ready and willing to fight for him. Of course the ACLU does a lot of
other heinous stuff to undermine American freedom,


This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on usenet.

Andy

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Old November 17th 04, 04:05 AM
Chas
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"Andy Gale" wrote
The real problem is the ACLU. Because every
illegal-midnight-border-crosser knows that he has a lawyer in the US
ready and willing to fight for him. Of course the ACLU does a lot of
other heinous stuff to undermine American freedom,

This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on usenet.


Without all the unfortunate hyperbole, it's pretty much true.
Illegals come here with the knowledge that the burden of proving they're
illegal rests on us; that they can declare 'refugee status', that a criminal
charge gets a freebie lawyer, and the process is glacial at best.
The ACLU has a very limited agenda, and their intentions can be very
questionable- depending on what you think they're about.

Chas


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Old November 17th 04, 04:05 AM
Chas
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"Andy Gale" wrote
The real problem is the ACLU. Because every
illegal-midnight-border-crosser knows that he has a lawyer in the US
ready and willing to fight for him. Of course the ACLU does a lot of
other heinous stuff to undermine American freedom,

This might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on usenet.


Without all the unfortunate hyperbole, it's pretty much true.
Illegals come here with the knowledge that the burden of proving they're
illegal rests on us; that they can declare 'refugee status', that a criminal
charge gets a freebie lawyer, and the process is glacial at best.
The ACLU has a very limited agenda, and their intentions can be very
questionable- depending on what you think they're about.

Chas


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Old November 17th 04, 04:43 AM
Tom Paterson
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From: "Chas"

Without all the unfortunate hyperbole, it's pretty much true.
Illegals come here with the knowledge that the burden of proving they're
illegal rests on us; that they can declare 'refugee status', that a criminal
charge gets a freebie lawyer, and the process is glacial at best.
The ACLU has a very limited agenda, and their intentions can be very
questionable- depending on what you think they're about.


The ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

Getting that asshole off was very questionable IMHO, I'll agree with you there.
--TP
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Old November 17th 04, 04:43 AM
Tom Paterson
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From: "Chas"

Without all the unfortunate hyperbole, it's pretty much true.
Illegals come here with the knowledge that the burden of proving they're
illegal rests on us; that they can declare 'refugee status', that a criminal
charge gets a freebie lawyer, and the process is glacial at best.
The ACLU has a very limited agenda, and their intentions can be very
questionable- depending on what you think they're about.


The ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

Getting that asshole off was very questionable IMHO, I'll agree with you there.
--TP
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Old November 17th 04, 04:57 AM
Tom Kunich
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"Tom Paterson" wrote in message
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From: "Chas"


Without all the unfortunate hyperbole, it's pretty much true.
Illegals come here with the knowledge that the burden of proving they're
illegal rests on us; that they can declare 'refugee status', that a
criminal
charge gets a freebie lawyer, and the process is glacial at best.
The ACLU has a very limited agenda, and their intentions can be very
questionable- depending on what you think they're about.


The ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

Getting that asshole off was very questionable IMHO, I'll agree with you
there.


Let me see if I understand you correctly - if the ACLU defends one right
winger it nullifies their actions in 98% of their other cases which are
strictly left wing issues.


 




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