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Old November 17th 04, 04:05 AM
Philip W. Moore, Jr.
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Magilla,

He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate,
being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing
bad for Tyler, like it or not.

-Philip
"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...
Hey douchebag Laffery,

Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's
NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince
the CAS to get around that RULE?

There is no legal case here.

Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses
wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them
they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal

fees.

As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion
test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no
15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead.

Magilla

B. Lafferty wrote:
"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05...

"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
ink.net...

Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding

is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.
Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in

the
time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against

everything
I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the
Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and

trying
to explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much

evidence,
I don't know how he's going to get out of it."



Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers?

Or
are there four seperate challenges?



Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the
rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful.

Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the
silver?



I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the
matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he

put in
for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-)




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  #12  
Old November 17th 04, 08:07 AM
MagillaGorilla
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Philmore,

I'm not saying it looks good right now for Tyler (I was simply
responding to Lafferty's post in which he implies that the Russian and
Australian federations have a legitimate case - they don't and they WILL
lose).

We need to await the science to play out in his arbitration hearing.
Remember, Tyler did say it was "an incredible story." Let's see what it is.

Who knows why Tyler tested positive. I'm willing to let the science
answer that. All this stuff people say in here without knowing any of
the details is irrelevant.

Although it's really unfortunate to see an attorney (Lafferty) taking
part in the clique of accusations and innuendo.

Magilla



Philip W. Moore, Jr. wrote:

Magilla,

He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate,
being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing
bad for Tyler, like it or not.

-Philip
"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...

Hey douchebag Laffery,

Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's
NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince
the CAS to get around that RULE?

There is no legal case here.

Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses
wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them
they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal


fees.

As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion
test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no
15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead.

Magilla

B. Lafferty wrote:

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05...


"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding


is

Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.
Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in


the

time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against


everything

I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the
Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and


trying

to explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much


evidence,

I don't know how he's going to get out of it."



Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers?


Or

are there four seperate challenges?


Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the
rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful.


Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the
silver?


I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the
matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he


put in

for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-)





  #13  
Old November 17th 04, 08:07 AM
MagillaGorilla
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Philmore,

I'm not saying it looks good right now for Tyler (I was simply
responding to Lafferty's post in which he implies that the Russian and
Australian federations have a legitimate case - they don't and they WILL
lose).

We need to await the science to play out in his arbitration hearing.
Remember, Tyler did say it was "an incredible story." Let's see what it is.

Who knows why Tyler tested positive. I'm willing to let the science
answer that. All this stuff people say in here without knowing any of
the details is irrelevant.

Although it's really unfortunate to see an attorney (Lafferty) taking
part in the clique of accusations and innuendo.

Magilla



Philip W. Moore, Jr. wrote:

Magilla,

He also failed the Vuelta controls. And what about Perez, his teammate,
being busted too? I'm proud to be an American, but it looks really ****ing
bad for Tyler, like it or not.

-Philip
"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...

Hey douchebag Laffery,

Tyler's Olympic test was deemed NEGATIVE. Without a B sample, it's
NEGATIVE under the rules. How are those federations going to convince
the CAS to get around that RULE?

There is no legal case here.

Your little list there of 4 entities is a list of clueless jackasses
wasting their federations money on attorneys who have convinced them
they can win this case, but in reality are just milking them for legal


fees.

As for Bobby J., what the **** does he know about the blood transfusion
test? Tyler's going to remember him when he comes crawling back....no
15% discount at Tugboat's Bike & Ride in Marblehead.

Magilla

B. Lafferty wrote:

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
news:acomd.17600$233.1713@okepread05...


"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding


is

Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.
Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in


the

time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against


everything

I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the
Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and


trying

to explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much


evidence,

I don't know how he's going to get out of it."



Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers?


Or

are there four seperate challenges?


Apparently the OCs can't or won't challenge without the approval of the
rider who will benifet if the appeal is successful.


Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the
silver?


I think USAC/USADA political correctness dictate that he stay out of the
matter. His own commercial interests could also dictate that. Can he


put in

for a medal upgrade on the USAC web site. ;-)





  #14  
Old November 17th 04, 10:34 PM
kaiser
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Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement.

"B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich
had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time
trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've
ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics
passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to
explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I
don't know how he's going to get out of it."

  #15  
Old November 17th 04, 10:34 PM
kaiser
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Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement.

"B. Lafferty" wrote in message nk.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions. Julich
had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the time
trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything I've
ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the Olympics
passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and trying to
explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much evidence, I
don't know how he's going to get out of it."

  #16  
Old November 18th 04, 02:02 AM
meb
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kaiser Wrote:
Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement.

"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
nk.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now

challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding

is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.

Julich
had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the

time
trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything

I've
ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the

Olympics
passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and

trying to
explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much

evidence, I
don't know how he's going to get out of it."

Not that much difference between a bronze and a silver.
And given it would come at the expense of the friend, Bobby probably
doesn't have any appetite in joining the chorus.


--
meb

  #17  
Old November 18th 04, 02:02 AM
meb
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kaiser Wrote:
Interesting that the bronze medalist isn't interested in getting
bumped-up to silver after making such a statement.

"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
nk.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now

challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding

is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.

Julich
had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in the

time
trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against everything

I've
ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the

Olympics
passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and

trying to
explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much

evidence, I
don't know how he's going to get out of it."

Not that much difference between a bronze and a silver.
And given it would come at the expense of the friend, Bobby probably
doesn't have any appetite in joining the chorus.


--
meb

  #18  
Old November 18th 04, 02:12 AM
meb
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Carl Sundquist Wrote:
"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
k.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now

challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding

is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.
Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in

the
time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against

everything
I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the
Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and

trying
to explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much

evidence,
I don't know how he's going to get out of it."



Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers?
Or
are there four seperate challenges?

Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the
silver?


Yes. Russia on behalf of Eki and Australia on behalf of Rogers, the
Australians joined in the Russian suit so it is just one suit.


--
meb

  #19  
Old November 18th 04, 02:12 AM
meb
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Carl Sundquist Wrote:
"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
k.net...
Do these people know something US Tyler tifosi don't? Now

challenging
Tyler's Gold medal a

1. Ekimov
2. Russian Olympic Committee
3. Michael Rogers
4. Australian Olympic Committee

Damning with faint praise by his non-involvment in the CAS proceeding

is
Bobby J. who stated to the NY Times:

One American cyclist at the show, Bobby Julich, had other questions.
Julich had roomed with Hamilton in Athens and won the bronze medal in

the
time trial. He said the suspicions about Hamilton "go against

everything
I've ever known from the guy." But, he added: "The rest of us at the
Olympics passed the test. Why didn't he?"

Julich took a deep breath.

"I'm sick of people who cheat, sick of cleaning up their mess and

trying
to explain it," he said.

Then, a pause.

"There is heavy evidence against him," he said. "With that much

evidence,
I don't know how he's going to get out of it."



Aren't the respective OC's challenging on behalf of Ekimov and Rogers?
Or
are there four seperate challenges?

Isn't Julich helping to clean up the mess by not challenging for the
silver?


Yes. Russia on behalf of Eki and Australia on behalf of Rogers, the
Australians joined in the Russian suit so it is just one suit.


--
meb

  #20  
Old November 19th 04, 06:53 AM
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Where did you hear "Det. van Adder dropped blood all over the crime scene?"

Sorry that should read Vannatter dropped blood
all over the crime scene. And in the Bronco.
And on a sock.
 




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