reminder - it's all a sham

For those of you who are surprised about Fuentes being able to start
his suspension on March of this past year and no forseeable USAC
enforcement of prize money issues, I give you this reminder.


Court of Arbitration of Sport criticizes USA Cycling
The North American Court of Arbitration in Sport has issued its full
decision in the case of T-Mobile rider Amber Neben, who was suspended
for six months after testing positive for anabolic steroid metabolite
19-norandrosterone. Neben's suspension was reduced from the possible
two years because the Court's hearing panel found she had not doped
deliberately but was likely the victim of a contaminated supplement.
The decision is severely critical of USA Cycling's attitude to
supplement use by athletes.

Referring to testimony from several USA Cycling officials, the Court's
decision reads, "the Panel is disturbed by the testimony from the USA
Cycling witnesses and officials. It is obvious that the organization
has acted in complete disregard of its athletes, in particular those
below the elite level. There appears to be little or no attempt at
communicating the dangers of contaminated supplements to the thousands
of USA Cycling athletes."

Testimony heard by the panel came from USA Cycling officials including
CEO Gerard Bisceglia, who said he "was not aware of the risks or
dangers involved in taking supplements" and "was not aware that any
USA Cycling officials had been handing out supplements."

Neben controlled positive in a test conducted on May 31 this year at
the Montreal World Cup. In her defence, Neben said she had also been
tested nine days before her positive control and three and four days
after. All three of those tests were negative. Neben claimed her
positive test was probably a result of a contaminated supplement, but
was unable to provide samples any supplements that showed
contamination. In particular, supplements supplied to USA Cycling
riders by sponsor Hammer Nutrition all tested negative.

The panel hearing the case concluded that Neben had not been guilty of
intentional doping, but that some sanction had to be applied under the
'strict liability' rules which cover doping offences. As well as a
six-month suspension starting July 13, 2003 Neben's sanction includes
a requirement to perform educational work with USA Cycling, to teach
other athletes about the dangers of contaminated supplements.

"Bill Laudien" wrote in message
m...
For those of you who are surprised about Fuentes being able to start
his suspension on March of this past year and no forseeable USAC
enforcement of prize money issues, I give you this reminder.

Court of Arbitration of Sport criticizes USA Cycling
The North American Court of Arbitration in Sport has issued its full
decision in the case of T-Mobile rider Amber Neben, who was suspended
for six months after testing positive for anabolic steroid metabolite
19-norandrosterone. Neben's suspension was reduced from the possible
two years because the Court's hearing panel found she had not doped
deliberately but was likely the victim of a contaminated supplement.
The decision is severely critical of USA Cycling's attitude to
supplement use by athletes.

Referring to testimony from several USA Cycling officials, the Court's
decision reads, "the Panel is disturbed by the testimony from the USA
Cycling witnesses and officials. It is obvious that the organization
has acted in complete disregard of its athletes, in particular those
below the elite level. There appears to be little or no attempt at
communicating the dangers of contaminated supplements to the thousands
of USA Cycling athletes."

Testimony heard by the panel came from USA Cycling officials including
CEO Gerard Bisceglia, who said he "was not aware of the risks or
dangers involved in taking supplements" and "was not aware that any
USA Cycling officials had been handing out supplements."

Neben controlled positive in a test conducted on May 31 this year at
the Montreal World Cup. In her defence, Neben said she had also been
tested nine days before her positive control and three and four days
after. All three of those tests were negative. Neben claimed her
positive test was probably a result of a contaminated supplement, but
was unable to provide samples any supplements that showed
contamination. In particular, supplements supplied to USA Cycling
riders by sponsor Hammer Nutrition all tested negative.

The panel hearing the case concluded that Neben had not been guilty of
intentional doping, but that some sanction had to be applied under the
'strict liability' rules which cover doping offences. As well as a
six-month suspension starting July 13, 2003 Neben's sanction includes
a requirement to perform educational work with USA Cycling, to teach
other athletes about the dangers of contaminated supplements.

OK Bill, since you've obviously seen the test results and since she had been
tested just before and just after the positive test and the half life of
nandrolone in the human body is known you will be able to tell us the
maximum dosage that she could have taken to return the results that were
shown. And you'll also be able to judge the theraputic effect of that dose.

Those stupid jerks on the Court of Arbitration would NEVER be able to figure
something like that one out but luckily for us we have Ladien to give us the
straight skinny.

"Bill Laudien" wrote in message
m...
For those of you who are surprised about Fuentes being able to start
his suspension on March of this past year and no forseeable USAC
enforcement of prize money issues, I give you this reminder.

Court of Arbitration of Sport criticizes USA Cycling
The North American Court of Arbitration in Sport has issued its full
decision in the case of T-Mobile rider Amber Neben, who was suspended
for six months after testing positive for anabolic steroid metabolite
19-norandrosterone. Neben's suspension was reduced from the possible
two years because the Court's hearing panel found she had not doped
deliberately but was likely the victim of a contaminated supplement.
The decision is severely critical of USA Cycling's attitude to
supplement use by athletes.

Referring to testimony from several USA Cycling officials, the Court's
decision reads, "the Panel is disturbed by the testimony from the USA
Cycling witnesses and officials. It is obvious that the organization
has acted in complete disregard of its athletes, in particular those
below the elite level. There appears to be little or no attempt at
communicating the dangers of contaminated supplements to the thousands
of USA Cycling athletes."

Testimony heard by the panel came from USA Cycling officials including
CEO Gerard Bisceglia, who said he "was not aware of the risks or
dangers involved in taking supplements" and "was not aware that any
USA Cycling officials had been handing out supplements."

Neben controlled positive in a test conducted on May 31 this year at
the Montreal World Cup. In her defence, Neben said she had also been
tested nine days before her positive control and three and four days
after. All three of those tests were negative. Neben claimed her
positive test was probably a result of a contaminated supplement, but
was unable to provide samples any supplements that showed
contamination. In particular, supplements supplied to USA Cycling
riders by sponsor Hammer Nutrition all tested negative.

The panel hearing the case concluded that Neben had not been guilty of
intentional doping, but that some sanction had to be applied under the
'strict liability' rules which cover doping offences. As well as a
six-month suspension starting July 13, 2003 Neben's sanction includes
a requirement to perform educational work with USA Cycling, to teach
other athletes about the dangers of contaminated supplements.

OK Bill, since you've obviously seen the test results and since she had been
tested just before and just after the positive test and the half life of
nandrolone in the human body is known you will be able to tell us the
maximum dosage that she could have taken to return the results that were
shown. And you'll also be able to judge the theraputic effect of that dose.

Those stupid jerks on the Court of Arbitration would NEVER be able to figure
something like that one out but luckily for us we have Ladien to give us the
straight skinny.

"Tom Kunich" wrote in message news:eIdnd.2490

OK Bill, since you've obviously seen the test results and since she had been
tested just before and just after the positive test and the half life of
nandrolone in the human body is known you will be able to tell us the
maximum dosage that she could have taken to return the results that were
shown. And you'll also be able to judge the theraputic effect of that dose.

Those stupid jerks on the Court of Arbitration would NEVER be able to figure
something like that one out but luckily for us we have Ladien to give us the
straight skinny.

Tom,

* The Federation runs a trade team. The Fed is dependant on the USOC
and the trade team sponsor for funding. The athlete in question was a
favorite for the Olympic team.
* The athletes reduction in suspension enabled her to compete in the
Olympic trials.
* The CEO of USAC testified on behalf of an athlete who tested
positive
* With doping being perhaps the greatest issue in cycling today, the
CEO testified that the federation hadn't done it's due dilligence and
was somewhat unaware of the potential for suppliment contamination.

While I think that Gerard has done a marketly better job than his
predicessors and i think that USAC is doing a generally good job, this
incident as well as the feds ingnoring the Ted Stevens Act as well as
the situation with Och and Phonak as well as having Mike Fraysee as
fed rep, as well as...insert your own example...shows me a general
disregard for the adherance to for rules and a lack of seriousness
regarding doping.

I don't think we need to see Neben's test to determine that and
Fuentes being permitted to serve his suspension retroactively doesn't
surprise me.

"Tom Kunich" wrote in message news:eIdnd.2490

OK Bill, since you've obviously seen the test results and since she had been
tested just before and just after the positive test and the half life of
nandrolone in the human body is known you will be able to tell us the
maximum dosage that she could have taken to return the results that were
shown. And you'll also be able to judge the theraputic effect of that dose.

Those stupid jerks on the Court of Arbitration would NEVER be able to figure
something like that one out but luckily for us we have Ladien to give us the
straight skinny.

Tom,

* The Federation runs a trade team. The Fed is dependant on the USOC
and the trade team sponsor for funding. The athlete in question was a
favorite for the Olympic team.
* The athletes reduction in suspension enabled her to compete in the
Olympic trials.
* The CEO of USAC testified on behalf of an athlete who tested
positive
* With doping being perhaps the greatest issue in cycling today, the
CEO testified that the federation hadn't done it's due dilligence and
was somewhat unaware of the potential for suppliment contamination.

While I think that Gerard has done a marketly better job than his
predicessors and i think that USAC is doing a generally good job, this
incident as well as the feds ingnoring the Ted Stevens Act as well as
the situation with Och and Phonak as well as having Mike Fraysee as
fed rep, as well as...insert your own example...shows me a general
disregard for the adherance to for rules and a lack of seriousness
regarding doping.

I don't think we need to see Neben's test to determine that and
Fuentes being permitted to serve his suspension retroactively doesn't
surprise me.

(Bill Laudien) wrote in
om:

Mike Fraysee as fed rep, as well as...

Which begs the question, does anybody REALLY care? Who is our trustee now? It
sure ain't Dave Miller. I thought the choice between Fraysee and Miller was
pretty clear, but there you go....666 other members here in the east didn't
agree with me. So what message does the fed get from this? Why should they
care if the membership they supposedly represnt doesn't? Raise the license
fee by 83 ****ing cents a month, and people get ****ed and threaten to quit.
I'd like to see as many people ****ed off about the way Neben's case was
handled, but it ain't gonna happen. I'd like to see people ****ed off about
the joke of Fuentes' suspension (so far the only angry folk seem to be those
who got screwed out of their winnings), but that's not going to happen
either. The problem with USAC isn't the leadership, it's the membership. As
with all government, unless the constituents demand accountability, they're
not going to get it.

(Bill Laudien) wrote in
om:

Mike Fraysee as fed rep, as well as...

Which begs the question, does anybody REALLY care? Who is our trustee now? It
sure ain't Dave Miller. I thought the choice between Fraysee and Miller was
pretty clear, but there you go....666 other members here in the east didn't
agree with me. So what message does the fed get from this? Why should they
care if the membership they supposedly represnt doesn't? Raise the license
fee by 83 ****ing cents a month, and people get ****ed and threaten to quit.
I'd like to see as many people ****ed off about the way Neben's case was
handled, but it ain't gonna happen. I'd like to see people ****ed off about
the joke of Fuentes' suspension (so far the only angry folk seem to be those
who got screwed out of their winnings), but that's not going to happen
either. The problem with USAC isn't the leadership, it's the membership. As
with all government, unless the constituents demand accountability, they're
not going to get it.

In article . net,
Tim Mullin wrote:
(Bill Laudien) wrote in
. com:

Mike Fraysee as fed rep, as well as...

Which begs the question, does anybody REALLY care? Who is our trustee now? It
sure ain't Dave Miller. I thought the choice between Fraysee and Miller was
pretty clear, but there you go....666 other members here in the east didn't
agree with me. So what message does the fed get from this? Why should they
care if the membership they supposedly represnt doesn't? Raise the license
fee by 83 ****ing cents a month, and people get ****ed and threaten to quit.
I'd like to see as many people ****ed off about the way Neben's case was
handled, but it ain't gonna happen. I'd like to see people ****ed off about
the joke of Fuentes' suspension (so far the only angry folk seem to be those
who got screwed out of their winnings), but that's not going to happen
either. The problem with USAC isn't the leadership, it's the membership. As
with all government, unless the constituents demand accountability, they're
not going to get it.

All those votes, and Frayse didnt show up for the meeting. Bet money
Dave Miller would have.

Scott
--
-*- Scott Patton
-*- Colorado Springs, CO

In article . net,
Tim Mullin wrote:
(Bill Laudien) wrote in
. com:

Mike Fraysee as fed rep, as well as...

Which begs the question, does anybody REALLY care? Who is our trustee now? It
sure ain't Dave Miller. I thought the choice between Fraysee and Miller was
pretty clear, but there you go....666 other members here in the east didn't
agree with me. So what message does the fed get from this? Why should they
care if the membership they supposedly represnt doesn't? Raise the license
fee by 83 ****ing cents a month, and people get ****ed and threaten to quit.
I'd like to see as many people ****ed off about the way Neben's case was
handled, but it ain't gonna happen. I'd like to see people ****ed off about
the joke of Fuentes' suspension (so far the only angry folk seem to be those
who got screwed out of their winnings), but that's not going to happen
either. The problem with USAC isn't the leadership, it's the membership. As
with all government, unless the constituents demand accountability, they're
not going to get it.

All those votes, and Frayse didnt show up for the meeting. Bet money
Dave Miller would have.

Scott
--
-*- Scott Patton
-*- Colorado Springs, CO

"Bill Laudien" wrote in message
om...

* The Federation runs a trade team. The Fed is dependant on the USOC
and the trade team sponsor for funding. The athlete in question was a
favorite for the Olympic team.
* The athletes reduction in suspension enabled her to compete in the
Olympic trials.
* The CEO of USAC testified on behalf of an athlete who tested
positive
* With doping being perhaps the greatest issue in cycling today, the
CEO testified that the federation hadn't done it's due dilligence and
was somewhat unaware of the potential for suppliment contamination.

While I think that Gerard has done a marketly better job than his
predicessors and i think that USAC is doing a generally good job, this
incident as well as the feds ingnoring the Ted Stevens Act as well as
the situation with Och and Phonak as well as having Mike Fraysee as
fed rep, as well as...insert your own example...shows me a general
disregard for the adherance to for rules and a lack of seriousness
regarding doping.

I don't think we need to see Neben's test to determine that and
Fuentes being permitted to serve his suspension retroactively doesn't
surprise me.

Bill, what if you looked at the actual data and it demonstrated that the
levels of nandralone in her body fit her claim that it was a contaminant and
not use of a steroid?

Yes, drugs are a problem but if you throw the baby out with the bathwater
you're worse off than if you ignore the problem.