Subway Pros at Valley of the Sun SR

After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out of 93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help them.

-Alec

"Alec Sander" wrote in message
oups.com...
After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out of 93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help them.

-Alec

and their placing would seem to verify your statement. it's almost more
informative to read the results last to first for the real story.

So now are we to assume that anyone who wins a race or does well is
doping?? Maybe the Subway guys aren't very good at TTs.

Tom


matabala wrote:
"Alec Sander" wrote in message
oups.com...
After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out
of 93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm
goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr
reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help
them.

-Alec

and their placing would seem to verify your statement. it's almost
more
informative to read the results last to first for the real story.

Alec Sander wrote:
After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out of
93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr
reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help them.

-Alec

First of all, it's the first race of the year and these guys did the TT
sans aero equipment. Let's give 'em a chance before you hang them all
out to dry. Time trialing is a speciality unto itself and no one was
prepared to give VOS a real shot. That's coming after the team training
camp leading up to Merced when the guys and gals actually get their
bikes and kit.

BTW, Ryan McKenzie (Subway) was 6th in the TT at Murrieta yesterday
with his road bike and spoked wheels. He was selected and road with the
Canadian National Team at Beauce last year supporting Dionne and the
boys.

Point is, there are decent-to-good riders on this team that may make
something of their cycling careers long term because of this
opportunity.

Eveyone loves to take the **** out of these guys because of the quasi
"pay to play" marketing of the team, when it's been well documented
here, on the pages of RBR(!), that most D3's fund alot of their racing
anyway at levels well above $4500.

I don't know about you, but investing $4500 for a season's worth of NRC
racing is not too bad for an up and comer needing the NRC exposure or
the domestic pro trying to make a last stand.

I know this is going to go on all season long and I'm not going to
defend around every corner, so when the boys do go well, at least give
them some credit.

-Erv

"Tom" wrote in message
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So now are we to assume that anyone who wins a race or does well is
doping?? Maybe the Subway guys aren't very good at TTs.

It isn't difficult to pick out the idiots in the set. 19 km in 23:21 is a 30
mph average. The Aussies are near the end of their season and they're
smoking. The Americans are just getting up and it shows.

But far be it from me to try to inject the slightest reality into the
maundering of the Lafferty-ites.

matabala wrote:
"Alec Sander" wrote in message
oups.com...
After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out
of 93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm
goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr
reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help
them.

-Alec

and their placing would seem to verify your statement. it's almost
more
informative to read the results last to first for the real story.

Alec Sander wrote:
After Valley of the Sun Stage 1 TT here's how they stacked up out of 93
starters:

65 Kevin Vanes (Subway Pro Cycling) 3.52
77 Todd Cornelius (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.33
79 Robbie Yost (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.49
80 Joshua Carter (Subway Pro Cycling) 4.52
88 Peter Femal (Subway Pro Cycling) 5.54

This was a 19k TT with the winning time of 23 minutes 21 seconds.

It's pretty hard to get anyone on rbr to agree to much but I'm goin'
out on a limb:

I think I can safely speak for every past present and future rbr reader
that these guys are racing clean.

If not then may God, Jehova, Allah, Jesus and Dr. Ferrari help them.

-Alec


Cornelius (77) is a pussy monkey.

Magilla

"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
k.net...
"Tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
So now are we to assume that anyone who wins a race or does well is
doping?? Maybe the Subway guys aren't very good at TTs.

It isn't difficult to pick out the idiots in the set. 19 km in 23:21 is a
30 mph average. The Aussies are near the end of their season and they're
smoking. The Americans are just getting up and it shows.

But far be it from me to try to inject the slightest reality into the
maundering of the Lafferty-ites.

Aussies? where? who? how many? nothing to do with my original statement.

from your constant mentions, if anyone has a Lafferty fixation it sure ain't
me.

matabala wrote:
"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
k.net...
"Tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
So now are we to assume that anyone who wins a race or does well
is
doping?? Maybe the Subway guys aren't very good at TTs.

It isn't difficult to pick out the idiots in the set. 19 km in
23:21 is a
30 mph average. The Aussies are near the end of their season and
they're
smoking. The Americans are just getting up and it shows.

But far be it from me to try to inject the slightest reality into
the
maundering of the Lafferty-ites.

Aussies? where? who? how many? nothing to do with my original
statement.

this is a typical kunich head scratcher post.

is he confused/misunderstanding/out-to-lunch or is he making some kind
of complex joke/statement ?

Erin wrote:

I know this is going to go on all season long and I'm not going to
defend around every corner, so when the boys do go well, at least
give
them some credit.




Dumbass -

You are obviously a ****ing newbie.

RBR's prime directive is: never admit that you've ever been wrong.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
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Erin wrote:

I know this is going to go on all season long and I'm not going to
defend around every corner, so when the boys do go well, at least
give
them some credit.




Dumbass -

You are obviously a ****ing newbie.

RBR's prime directive is: never admit that you've ever been wrong.

And here I thought it was everyone knows you can't impose one culture's
values on anothers.