Mountain bikers LOVE censorship, and HATE hearing the truth!

From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker.

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker.

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.

On Jun 16, 5:19*pm, PMH wrote:
On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker.

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for proving my point! By the way, I didn't write that. Read
more carefully.

On Jun 17, 3:06*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jun 16, 5:19*pm, PMH wrote:









On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker..

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for proving my point! By the way, I didn't write that. Read
more carefully.

The point here is your willingness to cut & paste willy-nilly with no
regard to editorial integrity. Claiming you didn't write the comment
is no defense against the fact it does not say what you wished it to.
Such semantic sloppiness as in that post undermines whatever point you
were hoping to make. Post more carefully and people just might take
you more seriously. Years ago we established I do not nor never have
owned or ridden a mountain bike, so your leaping to characterizations
is once again falsified.
PMH

On Jun 17, 3:06*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Jun 16, 5:19*pm, PMH wrote:









On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker..

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for proving my point! By the way, I didn't write that. Read
more carefully.


How were the meals in jail, Michael J. Vandeman?

Originally Posted by adfad

On Jun 16, 5:19*pm, PMH wrote:
On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker.

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant.
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for proving my point! By the way, I didn't write that. Read
more carefully.

Seriously, is the aggression necessary?? You have different opinions, get over it.

On Jun 17, 6:47*am, PMH wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:06*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Jun 16, 5:19*pm, PMH wrote:

On Jun 16, 5:10*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

From: Robert
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:26:48 -0700
Subject: helmets - uhhggg

People -

This helmet debate needs to stop. Its mute. To wear or not, does not
affect others. The decision maker
alone reaps the benefits of wearing, or suffers the consequences of
not.

When one crashes and bashes their brains sans a helmet, my head does
not
spontaneously
receive injury. Its their injury alone.

In this society that is the bottom line. We have no right to infringe
on others decisions
if the consequences of those decisions only affect the decision maker.

period.

the only exceptions are those who cannot make rational, informed
decisions
eg. kids, mentally impaired etc.....

All readers of this list know this. So lets talk something relevant..
Like....whats
your fastest time to the top of Tiger? or should we be riding the
South
Tiger trails
despite their 'hiking' status etc...

Cheers

You mean "moot," not "mute." However, if you were mute, we'd all be
better off.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for proving my point! By the way, I didn't write that. Read
more carefully.

The point here is your willingness to cut & paste willy-nilly with no
regard to editorial integrity. Claiming you didn't write the comment
is no defense against the fact it does not say what you wished it to.
Such semantic sloppiness as in that post undermines whatever point you
were hoping to make. Post more carefully and people just might take
you more seriously. Years ago we established I do not nor never have
owned or ridden a mountain bike, so your leaping to characterizations
is once again falsified.
PMH- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BS. I posted the message in its entirety. It demonstrates exactly what
I wanted it to demonstrate: mountain bikers' love of censorship ("This
helmet debate needs to stop"), which you then confirmed by calling for
me to shut up. You are just trying to obscure the fact that you CAN'T
READ! Mountain bike sympathizers are just as bad as mountain bikers.
Neither is capable of telling the truth. WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE? You
couldn't think your way out of a paper bag.

On Jun 17, 11:55*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
I posted the message in its entirety.

Yep. Semantic inadequacies & all.

"Kayak 44" wrote in message
...
[...]
How were the meals in jail, Michael J. Vandeman?

Why don't you tell us since you have associated with jailhouse criminals for
20+ years - you god damn anonymous cowardly poster *******!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On 6/17/2011 10:55 AM, Convicted Criminal Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman wrote:
BS. I posted the message in its entirety. It demonstrates exactly what
I wanted it to demonstrate: mountain bikers' love of censorship ("This
helmet debate needs to stop"), which you then confirmed by calling for
me to shut up. [...]

Talk to your PO. I am pretty sure he/she would agree you would be doing
yourself a favor by shutting up.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.