And you thought Vancouver was bad...

Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.

In article ,
Peter Cole writes:


This is good news, because it shows that cyclists are
finally on the political map. Our presence is finally
acknowledged. Knee-jerkism will be shown for the
stupidity it is.

These Melbournian laws are an ostensible reaction to two
pedestrian deaths over the course of about a decade, the
last death occured 3 years ago, back in 2006. Meanwhile,
lots of people are being run-over by cars.

If the Melbourne ridership takes this lying down, they'd
just be a bunch of pussies (like LAB.) And I know they're not.

Few things are more imposing than a righteously indignant
Australian. Righteously indignant Australians are like
opening the gates of Hell and letting all the bats out.

And Vancouver is still a pretty good place to ride.
As a Pacific Rim city and part of the British Commonwealth,
we enjoy a long-standing connection with Australia, hailing
at least back to the old Empress shipping line.


cheers,
Tom

Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.

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On Jun 21, 1:04*pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.

Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
Peter Cole writes:


This is good news, because it shows that cyclists are
finally on the political map. Our presence is finally
acknowledged. Knee-jerkism will be shown for the
stupidity it is.

Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

I don't know if you've seen this, it's a little old, but I hadn't. Kind
of thing I would like ti have have written had I the eloquence:

George Monbiot:

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005...-in-our-midst/

In article ,
John Kane writes:
On Jun 21, 1:04*pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.
Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.

In British Columbia's Motor Vehicle Act, a bicycle is not
considered a vehicle, but bicyclists are deemed to have
all the rights & responsibilities of a vehicle driver.
Except for some extra laws on the side concerning bicyclists.


cheers,
Tom

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Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
John Kane writes:
On Jun 21, 1:04 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.
Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.

In British Columbia's Motor Vehicle Act, a bicycle is not
considered a vehicle, but bicyclists are deemed to have
all the rights & responsibilities of a vehicle driver.
Except for some extra laws on the side concerning bicyclists.


cheers,
Tom


Cyclists should have the rights and responsibilities of roller skaters.

On Jun 21, 6:05*pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
* *John Kane writes:
On Jun 21, 1:04 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html

The maximum penalties under the new act include:

DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.

CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence

IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison

IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.
Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? *In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. *Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.

In British Columbia's Motor Vehicle Act, a bicycle is not
considered a vehicle, but bicyclists are deemed to have
all the rights & responsibilities of a vehicle driver.
Except for some extra laws on the side concerning bicyclists.

cheers,
* *Tom

Cyclists should have the rights and responsibilities of roller skaters

Which are?

John Kane wrote:
On Jun 21, 6:05 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
John Kane writes:
On Jun 21, 1:04 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html
The maximum penalties under the new act include:
DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.
CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence
IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison
IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.
Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.
In British Columbia's Motor Vehicle Act, a bicycle is not
considered a vehicle, but bicyclists are deemed to have
all the rights & responsibilities of a vehicle driver.
Except for some extra laws on the side concerning bicyclists.
cheers,
Tom
Cyclists should have the rights and responsibilities of roller skaters

Which are?

Same as pedestrians, AFAIK.

On Jun 22, 5:40*pm, Peter Cole wrote:
John Kane wrote:
On Jun 21, 6:05 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
* *John Kane writes:
On Jun 21, 1:04 pm, Peter Cole wrote:
Cyclists to face big fines or prison under tough new laws
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...78-661,00.html
The maximum penalties under the new act include:
DANGEROUS riding - $13,610 or prison for twelve months or both.
CARELESS riding of a bike - $681 for a first offence and $1361 for a
subsequent offence
IF a person is killed or seriously injured by a cyclist and the rider
has not immediately stopped and offered assistance - $68,052 or five
years in prison
IF property is damaged by a cyclist and the rider has not immediately
stopped and offered assistance - $284 or seven days in prison for a
first offence and $567 or prison for between seven and 14 days for a
subsequent offence.
Was the state highway code so badly written that there were no
penalties for this type of thing before? *In Ontario a bicycle is a
vehicle just as a car is and the same penalties apply. *Actually I
think this is true in all provinces in Canada.
In British Columbia's Motor Vehicle Act, a bicycle is not
considered a vehicle, but bicyclists are deemed to have
all the rights & responsibilities of a vehicle driver.
Except for some extra laws on the side concerning bicyclists.
cheers,
* *Tom
Cyclists should have the rights and responsibilities of roller skaters

Which are?

Same as pedestrians, AFAIK.

Hmm. Only allowed on the streets at marked crosswalks...

- Frank Krygowski