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Old May 10th 21, 02:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...hompson-center


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Old May 10th 21, 08:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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AMuzi wrote:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/5/9/22427519/renowned-architect-helmut-jahn-killed-bike-accident-near-st-charles-home-thompson-center


,218m/data=!3m1!1e3
Compton Hills, riding Old Lafox Rd, approaching Burlington Rd junction ...
slight descent before apprach, generally unobstructed view to the left, not
even a sun glare situation looking right.

Despite the upcoming building sale mentioned, it makes me suspect a medical
issue, or a technical failure. To Andrew or other Ill. experts: Would this
case typically be followed by an autopsy including the head's blood vessels
and by a competent technical inspection of the bicycle? Would Jahn's age
bracket recently have gotten the second hit of the experimental, nanotoxic,
gene-tech C-jab?

However one feels about Mr. Jahn's buildings, death penalty is a bit harsh.
R.I.P.
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Old May 10th 21, 02:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 5/10/2021 2:56 AM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/5/9/22427519/renowned-architect-helmut-jahn-killed-bike-accident-near-st-charles-home-thompson-center


,218m/data=!3m1!1e3
Compton Hills, riding Old Lafox Rd, approaching Burlington Rd junction ...
slight descent before apprach, generally unobstructed view to the left, not
even a sun glare situation looking right.

Despite the upcoming building sale mentioned, it makes me suspect a medical
issue, or a technical failure. To Andrew or other Ill. experts: Would this
case typically be followed by an autopsy including the head's blood vessels
and by a competent technical inspection of the bicycle? Would Jahn's age
bracket recently have gotten the second hit of the experimental, nanotoxic,
gene-tech C-jab?

However one feels about Mr. Jahn's buildings, death penalty is a bit harsh.
R.I.P.



Good question. I have no idea. Autopsies generally have
become unusual and rare, moreso in the past year and worse
still in Cook County (Chicago area).

But that's Kane County, which is less screwed up. Maybe the
coroner will consider it, as you did.

(Can't find a chart of the trendline for autopsies but a few
years ago I read that the incidence is declining sharply)

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1705948-overview

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/...psies-anymore/

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Old May 10th 21, 03:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:18:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...hompson-center


Came to a stop in a left turn lane. To the left of me was an ambulance. When the light changed and I start out, while in the turn that ambulance went straight and almost hit me. I think there are far greater driving errors to enforce that whether a bicyclist makes a yield out of a stop sign on an open intersection.
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Old May 10th 21, 05:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 5/10/2021 10:49 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:18:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...hompson-center


Came to a stop in a left turn lane. To the left of me was an ambulance. When the light changed and I start out, while in the turn that ambulance went straight and almost hit me. I think there are far greater driving errors to enforce that whether a bicyclist makes a yield out of a stop sign on an open intersection.


FWIW, when waiting in a left turn lane, I invariably wait at the lane
center. I won't let a motor vehicle come alongside me.

OTOH, when waiting for green in a right lane I sometimes scoot farther
left if a motorist behind me is signaling a desire to turn right on red.
I'll wave them through, and frequently get thanked for that.


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Old May 10th 21, 05:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 12:31:29 p.m. UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/10/2021 10:49 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:18:31 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...hompson-center


Came to a stop in a left turn lane. To the left of me was an ambulance. When the light changed and I start out, while in the turn that ambulance went straight and almost hit me. I think there are far greater driving errors to enforce that whether a bicyclist makes a yield out of a stop sign on an open intersection.

FWIW, when waiting in a left turn lane, I invariably wait at the lane
center. I won't let a motor vehicle come alongside me.

OTOH, when waiting for green in a right lane I sometimes scoot farther
left if a motorist behind me is signaling a desire to turn right on red.
I'll wave them through, and frequently get thanked for that.


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- Frank Krygowski


Watch out for the ones who are signalling a right turn but who drive through the intersection on your right instead of turning right.

Cheers
 




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