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Old December 20th 04, 10:04 PM
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From Velonews.com today:

Pound has frequently argued that the test results from the Vuelta underscore
the positive from Athens.
"He got to keep his medal, but somewhere in that whole process, they get the
word out that he needs to be tested at the Vuelta... and that test showed
the same stuff as did the A sample from Athens," he said. "So yes, yes his
medal is tainted. He doesn't deserve to have a gold medal. The tests show
that. As I said, he dodged a bullet."

Pound's position was echoed by IOC president Jacques Rogge.

Rogge told the Reuters news service on Monday that he regretted the
"technicality" that allowed Hamilton to keep his gold medal.

"The stupidity of a lab employee made it impossible to punish the American,
but it does not question the validity of the test," Rogge said. "Nobody will
regard him as the time trial Olympic champion in Athens."

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Old December 20th 04, 10:27 PM
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psycholist wrote:

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Why is this more damning than what we've already heard?


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Old December 20th 04, 11:08 PM
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"Robert Chung" wrote in message
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psycholist wrote:

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Why is this more damning than what we've already heard?


"More" was quantitative, not qualitative.



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Old December 21st 04, 01:04 AM
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The UCI worned TH way before the Velta or the Olympics. He had a chance
to go away quietly. Now he's a joke. End of story

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Old December 21st 04, 01:33 AM
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dumbass,

that is another thing TH has been silent on. where is the early warning
rumour from ? depending on your take, it makes him look more or less
guilty.

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Old December 21st 04, 02:08 AM
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"amit" wrote in message
ups.com...
dumbass,

that is another thing TH has been silent on. where is the early warning
rumour from ? depending on your take, it makes him look more or less
guilty.


IIRC, that was revealed by the head of the UCI medical commission.


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Old December 21st 04, 02:55 AM
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http://www.ucomics.com/tomthedancingbug/
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Old December 21st 04, 03:36 AM
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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Pound saying that his test, the scientific validity of which is
unproven,
proved that Hamilton is guilty.

He then tells us that the technician who performed the tests, didn't
find a
positive and then FOLLOWED PROCEDURE, was "stupid". Personally I think
that
the technician should file a law suit against Pound for slander.


Tom, in what way is the scientific validity "unproven"?

In the article published in 'Transfusion Medicine' about it, 25 people
were tested. There were 22 true positives and 3 true negatives. The
three were found not to have received any recent transfusions.

The test has been done on many hundreds (at least). Just because their
results aren't published doesn't mean they are not available to the
people that need to know about them.

This type of FACS testing has also been around a long time and is very
accurate and very scientifically valid.


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Old December 21st 04, 03:45 AM
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dumbass,

the 'stupidity' commnt is attributed to rogge.

-Amit

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Old December 21st 04, 03:51 AM
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:36:07 +1100, patch70 wrote:
Tom, in what way is the scientific validity "unproven"?

In the article published in 'Transfusion Medicine' about it, 25 people
were tested. There were 22 true positives and 3 true negatives.


Even without false tests, that leaves the occurrence of false positives
much more uncertain than false negatives.

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