Bystolic (Nebivolol)

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Have you considered a course of EPO? That should get you back in fine
form.

You know, this is one of the last places I'd look for
medical advice.

Brad, have you considered shots of ouzo?

Bob Schwartz

Bob Schwartz wrote:
You know, this is one of the last places I'd look for
medical advice.

Probably because your medical insurance couldn't afford us. Apply
to SOTS for an improved insurance.

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Donald Munro wrote:

Donald Munro wrote:
Now all you need is a program that will culminate in you
winning some fatty master training rides again.

Paul B. Anders wrote:
Well, when you come down to it, that's exactly what this is about.
After I went on metoprolol, it took enough of my edge away that guys
who I used to beat could clean my clock, which ****ed me off to no
end. So, I jacked up my training, but I found out that I just didn't
improve that much when I was on that stuff. So, like any whining
cyclist, I'd constantly remind everyone that I was on a beta blocker
and that's why I sucked. Now, if this new one really works, and I
actually was being affected by the old one (probably complete BS),
then I should recover some form, and I can STILL claim to be on a beta
blocker and make the guys I ride with feel even more lame.

This is why I love cycling so much.

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Have you considered a course of EPO? That should get you back in fine
form.

Perhaps he can get a TUE for EPO, or failing that he could really make
Magilla's day and get an asthma TUE.

I'm not seriously suggesting EPO (that's a little too hardcore), but I
was under the impression Paul was trying to win the training ride, not
the District Masters Championship.

Club rides don't need TUEs,

--
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"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
I'm not seriously suggesting EPO

Candyass.

--
Michele Ferrari

On Aug 18, 10:06*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*"Paul B. Anders" wrote:





On Aug 18, 11:29*am, Donald Munro wrote:
Paul B. Anders wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:22*pm, "Paul B. Anders" wrote:
Today, my cardio switched me from 25 mg metoprolol twice daily to 5 mg
Bystolic (Nebivolol), I think it's 2x daily (need to ask to make
certain). From what he told me and from what I can figure out from the
wikipedia entry, this beta blocker doesn't have the same negative
effect on VO2max that metoprolol. Anyone else have any experience with
Bystolic?

Found this, looks encouraging.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/k23u225t07602111/

Now all you need is a program that will culminate in you
winning some fatty master training rides again.

Well, when you come down to it, that's exactly what this is about.
After I went on metoprolol, it took enough of my edge away that guys
who I used to beat could clean my clock, which ****ed me off to no
end. So, I jacked up my training, but I found out that I just didn't
improve that much when I was on that stuff. So, like any whining
cyclist, I'd constantly remind everyone that I was on a beta blocker
and that's why I sucked. Now, if this new one really works, and I
actually was being affected by the old one (probably complete BS),
then I should recover some form, and I can STILL claim to be on a beta
blocker and make the guys I ride with feel even more lame.

This is why I love cycling so much.

Brad Anders

Have you considered a course of EPO? That should get you back in fine
form.

I actually have had some EPO. After my surgery I had a bleeder in my
chest when I was in the ICU and my crit dropped to 24, so they gave me
a couple of units and put me on EPO. I have to say it worked, too,
because I could kick the ass of every single 80-year-old recovering
bypass patient on the ward when we did our daily laps around the
halls.

BTW, if you ever want to convince yourself of the need to stay in good
cardiovascular shape and do the right things to avoid CAD, spend a
couple of hours in the cardiac ward and look at all the 60+ guys who
are in there for bypass.

Brad Anders

"Paul B. Anders" wrote in message
...

BTW, if you ever want to convince yourself of the need to stay in good
cardiovascular shape and do the right things to avoid CAD, spend a
couple of hours in the cardiac ward and look at all the 60+ guys who
are in there for bypass.

NOTE: People who are long term athletes have almost the same incidence of
arterial blockage as non-athletes. Remember that and always get your yearly
checkup. And be sure that you get a full workup every couple of years as
well. You don't want to discover a heart condition by having a heart attack.

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Susan Walker wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
I'm not seriously suggesting EPO

Candyass.

I know! Even orange juice creeps me out.

Just healthy, nourishing wine for me,

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
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Just healthy, nourishing wine for me,

Hell, at least we Americans know that the REAL(tm) health food is BEER.
Although the label says 280 calories half of that is alcohol which a person
doesn't absorb. It gets ****ed away making beer less fattening than most
other drinks.

On Aug 19, 7:11*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message

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Just healthy, nourishing wine for me,

Hell, at least we Americans know that the REAL(tm) health food is BEER.
Although the label says 280 calories half of that is alcohol which a person
doesn't absorb. It gets ****ed away making beer less fattening than most
other drinks.

So, you're saying that alcohol is effectively non-caloric?

Brad Anders

On Aug 20, 9:53*am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Paul B. Anders" wrote in ...



BTW, if you ever want to convince yourself of the need to stay in good
cardiovascular shape and do the right things to avoid CAD, spend a
couple of hours in the cardiac ward and look at all the 60+ guys who
are in there for bypass.

NOTE: People who are long term athletes have almost the same incidence of
arterial blockage as non-athletes. Remember that and always get your yearly
checkup. And be sure that you get a full workup every couple of years as
well. You don't want to discover a heart condition by having a heart attack.

because so many athletes use their exercise as an excuse for poor
nutrition.