Clemens - just Pettite and McNamee .... Armstrong - they will have8-10 minimum

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

On Aug 20, 9:02*am, Choppy Warburton
wrote:

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - *what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

Your criteria is as flawed as your logic. Revise and resubmit.

R

Choppy Warburton wrote:

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

"We're getting tired of this kind of post, Lafferty. And I banged your
wife last week."

Does anybody know Magilla's home address?

Lawboy

On Aug 20, 8:02*am, Choppy Warburton
wrote:
7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - *what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

Chumpy,

It won't take 8-10 to take down Armstrong. Somebody credible and with
first-hand, eye witness testimony who corroborates Landis will do the
trick.

-Philip

Philip wrote:

On Aug 20, 8:02*am, Choppy Warburton
wrote:
7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - *what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

Chumpy,

It won't take 8-10 to take down Armstrong. Somebody credible and with
first-hand, eye witness testimony who corroborates Landis will do the
trick.

-Philip

USADA will likely file doping charges against Lance within the next 2
years, and they might even end up stripping him of one or more of his
Tour wins. This is gonna get nasty, folks.

Buckle up and enjoy the ride,

Magilla

"Choppy Warburton" wrote in message
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7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

I'm thinking the exact opposite. Being small potatoes makes a massive effort
less worthwhile. The bigger the battle, the greater the spoils. Plus, Lance
never lied to Congress. People are nuts to think that's not relevant to
Clemens' case. You go up and lie before the best liars in the world, and
think you're going to get away with it? That's just nuts.

Lance didn't personally come to RBR and tell Brian he's clean. Brian's
response is emotional, not revenge-based. Congress sought revenge with
Clemens (and others).

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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Choppy Warburton wrote:

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

The war against some people continues. A politician
acknowledged in his report that management and players
share responsibility the widespread use of drugs in
baseball; but only the players are punished.

--
Michael Press

"Michael Press" wrote in message
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In article
,
Choppy Warburton wrote:

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

The war against some people continues. A politician
acknowledged in his report that management and players
share responsibility the widespread use of drugs in
baseball; but only the players are punished.

--
Michael Press

What would you change? How do you go after management in baseball? If
across-the-board doping exists (or did exist) in cycling, it requires an
extraordinarily systematic approach and a lot of coordination between
various parties to avoid detection. Management is aware of doping in
baseball, but do you believe they are as intimately involved as must be the
case for cycling (assuming doping exists across-the-board in cycling)?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
m...
: "Choppy Warburton" wrote in message
: ...
: 7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"
:
: 7 time TdF winner - what's the TdF ????
:
: Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
: down.
:
: I'm thinking the exact opposite. Being small potatoes makes a massive
effort
: less worthwhile. The bigger the battle, the greater the spoils. Plus,
Lance
: never lied to Congress. People are nuts to think that's not relevant to
: Clemens' case.



Dumbass -

The Clemens case has a problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/21/sp...21clemens.html

snip

According to a high-profile lawyer in Washington, the release of the
Mitchell report at the behest of Commissioner Bud Selig and not Congress
raises questions about why the committee was investigating the matter in the
first place. And that, according to the lawyer, Reginald J. Brown, a former
special assistant to President George W. Bush and an associate White House
general counsel from 2003 to 2005, has given Clemens's lawyers a strong
argument to have the government's perjury case dismissed.

"The case against Clemens is not a slam dunk for the government," he said
Friday in a telephone interview.

"Congress didn't do this investigation to determine whether they needed new
drug laws," Brown said. "They didn't do it to determine whether federal
agencies were exercising their proper oversight. They did this to figure out
whether Clemens or his trainer were telling the truth, and that is arguably
not a legislative function. It's not Congress's job to hold perjury trials."



snip



Brown said there was historical precedence to support his argument. In 1953,
Aldo Lorenzo Icardi, a law clerk from Pittsburgh, testified before a
Congressional hearing that he had not murdered an Army major during World
War II. Two years later, a grand jury in Washington indicted Icardi on
perjury charges. But Icardi's lawyer argued before the case was scheduled to
go to trial that Congress had no authority to question the validity of his
client's testimony.

The judge presiding over the case dismissed the charges because Icardi's
testimony had no "valid legislative purpose."



snipend

On Aug 20, 4:24*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
"Michael Press" wrote in message
Choppy Warburton wrote:

7 time Cy Young winner - big time "sports hero"

7 time TdF winner - *what's the TdF ????

Armstrong is small ****ing potatoes and will be much easier to take
down.

The war against some people continues. A politician
acknowledged in his report that management and players
share responsibility the widespread use of drugs in
baseball; but only the players are punished.

--
Michael Press

What would you change? How do you go after management in baseball? If
across-the-board doping exists (or did exist) in cycling, it requires an
extraordinarily systematic approach and a lot of coordination between
various parties to avoid detection. Management is aware of doping in
baseball, but do you believe they are as intimately involved as must be the
case for cycling (assuming doping exists across-the-board in cycling)?

Dumbass,

The fans liked the McGwire-Sosa-Bonds home run chase
and Clemens throwing the heater as if his arm had no
natural age limit on wear and tear. The fans liked it, so
management liked it, so they had a dope policy that made
it impossible to get caught.

The players are the ones who ingested the substances,
but everybody benefited. The real problem is the fans.
Prosecute the fans.

Kill them all; Dick Pound will know his own.

Fredmaster Ben