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RAN ACROSS THE WORDY FELLOW, WHOM I IMAGINE YAWL KNOW, searching 'ignorant bicycle' http://www.bikereader.com/contributo...iterature.html |
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Yes, Forester certainly does seem to have verbal diarrhea of the written word variety. I felt the same way when I tried to read "Effective Cycling": an entire book devoted to what could have been said in one paragraph. He seems, for no apparent reason, to be overly-impressed with his own sense of wonderfulness.
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On Jun 28, 9:29 pm, datakoll wrote:
RAN ACROSS THE WORDY FELLOW, WHOM I IMAGINE YAWL KNOW, searching 'ignorant bicycle' http://www.bikereader.com/contributo...iterature.html I got into a slew of Nicci French murder mysteries a while back - really good stuff - psychological - the author knows London and has a remarkable ability for expressing human feeling with words. Outstanding stuff as a lot. I'll be looking for more. Probably wait until there's another slew of them to read, since I couldn't get enough of the first batch. Anyway, this one: http://kimbofo.typepad.com/readingma...ci-french.html .... has a bike messenger as protaganist. While the author knows London and has an outstanding connection with the human experience, she (they?) are outsiders WRT bike riding. The supposedly competent Astrid is doored in the opening chapter. Good read, though. |
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Reading Forester is a bit like reading Isaac Newton.
The writing may not be sparkling and concise, but it was groundbreaking in its time. =v= Given the claims that what he describes are proper riding techniques known to and practiced by British club riders decades before Forester took pen in hand, I'd say "groundbreaking" is a gross exaggeration. =v= Certainly compiling these techniques into a dogma that some found compelling was a step in the history of bicycle advocacy, but that ain't Newton by a long shot. _Jym_ |
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Jym Dyer wrote:
Reading Forester is a bit like reading Isaac Newton. The writing may not be sparkling and concise, but it was groundbreaking in its time. =v= Given the claims that what he describes are proper riding techniques known to and practiced by British club riders decades before Forester took pen in hand, I'd say "groundbreaking" is a gross exaggeration. Hmm. Well, one way or another, Americans had not heard the message despite those supposed decades. Should we say he broke American ground, at least? (Incidentally, John Franklin has found it necessary to deliver the same message to the Brits. Most of them seem to have forgotten those techniques, if they ever really knew them.) =v= Certainly compiling these techniques into a dogma... Hmm. In most cases dogma isn't testable. The benefits of riding as a legitimate vehicle operator certainly seem to be. that some found compelling was a step in the history of bicycle advocacy, but that ain't Newton by a long shot. Even Newton said he was "standing on the shoulders of giants." -- - Frank Krygowski |
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is there evidence for these claims ?
Until Forester, most cyclists thought it was best to stay completely out of the way of cars, to ride sidewalks, to skulk in gutters, and to always use bike facilities - thinking any bike facility is a good bike facility! Forester said, and explained, that "Cyclists fare best when they act, and are treated, as drivers of vehicles." Lots of people soon realized that was true. But not everyone, unfortunately, which is we now have people calling for "cycle tracks" into blind intersections. :-( Surly...Newton suggests staying in your speed weight gutter. |
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On 07/04/2012 09:24 AM, datakoll wrote:
is there evidence for these claims ? Until Forester, most cyclists thought it was best to stay completely out of the way of cars, to ride sidewalks, to skulk in gutters, and to always use bike facilities - thinking any bike facility is a good bike facility! Amazing. Being able to know what most cyclists think. snip Surly...Newton suggests staying in your speed weight gutter. You can't be serious that we're actually comparing Forester to Newton? I guess I know where this came from... |
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On 7/9/2012 10:29 AM, Duane wrote:
On 07/04/2012 09:24 AM, datakoll wrote: is there evidence for these claims ? Until Forester, most cyclists thought it was best to stay completely out of the way of cars, to ride sidewalks, to skulk in gutters, and to always use bike facilities - thinking any bike facility is a good bike facility! Amazing. Being able to know what most cyclists think. snip Surly...Newton suggests staying in your speed weight gutter. You can't be serious that we're actually comparing Forester to Newton? I guess I know where this came from... Newton has the better cookie. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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