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quote from the latest edition of 'Australian RoadRIDER:
"If I was to complain about something it would be pushbikes being ridden side-by-side. It's very hard to slow a 68-tonne truck from 100km/h to 30km/h, but they have every right to be there as well. I guess a new term for Volvo driver could be...lifetimewhingers... Peter Pickrell etc They don't have a right to be there, you know, Peter. Riding pushbikes side-by-side is actually illegal.....The Bear" is the motor cycling guru correct ? in which state - if any - is this true ? ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) . . . bjbear still trying to reach 30km/h over 30 km |
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In aus.bicycle on Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:50:46 +0930
barry taylor wrote: quote from the latest edition of 'Australian RoadRIDER: "If I was to complain about something it would be pushbikes being ridden side-by-side. It's very hard to slow a 68-tonne truck from 100km/h to 30km/h, but they have every right to be there as well. I guess a new term for Volvo driver could be...lifetimewhingers... Peter Pickrell etc They don't have a right to be there, you know, Peter. Riding pushbikes side-by-side is actually illegal.....The Bear" is the motor cycling guru correct ? in which state - if any - is this true ? He's not correct when it comes to NSW. I think he might be in the NT. Zebee |
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"Zebee Johnstone" wrote in message ... In aus.bicycle on Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:50:46 +0930 barry taylor wrote: quote from the latest edition of 'Australian RoadRIDER: "If I was to complain about something it would be pushbikes being ridden side-by-side. It's very hard to slow a 68-tonne truck from 100km/h to 30km/h, but they have every right to be there as well. I guess a new term for Volvo driver could be...lifetimewhingers... Peter Pickrell etc They don't have a right to be there, you know, Peter. Riding pushbikes side-by-side is actually illegal.....The Bear" is the motor cycling guru correct ? in which state - if any - is this true ? He's not correct when it comes to NSW. I think he might be in the NT. Zebee ARR apply in all states with only minor mods so would think NT would be the same as NSW, Vic etc. Road trains in my experience (rode from Adelaide to Darwin once) generally pass a cyclists safely enough and will often cross the centreline if nothing coming, so no problems if two abreast. But if something is coming the other way even single file is dangerous, so best option is to get off the road if you have the chance. Often difficult if there is a rough edge or soft shoulder, as is typical on NT roads. The drivers will give you a gentle toot when coming up behind and passing looks ok but if the toot becomes loud and continuous its time to get out of the way. Just hope the Army isn't coming the other way, as happened to us at one stage. Had a very close shave with a road train catching us out coming up behind just as we were over a crest and marvelling at a column of tanks approaching. Trucks passing on inside bends can also be dangerous, as is the second road train drafting the leader. fb |
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barry taylor wrote:
quote from the latest edition of 'Australian RoadRIDER: "If I was to complain about something it would be pushbikes being ridden side-by-side. It's very hard to slow a 68-tonne truck from 100km/h to 30km/h, but they have every right to be there as well. I guess a new term for Volvo driver could be...lifetimewhingers... Peter Pickrell etc They don't have a right to be there, you know, Peter. Riding pushbikes side-by-side is actually illegal.....The Bear" is the motor cycling guru correct ? in which state - if any - is this true ? You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: "151 Riding a motor bike or bicycle alongside more than 1 other rider (1) The rider of a motor bike or bicycle must not ride on a road that is not a multi-lane road alongside more than 1 other rider, unless subrule (3) applies to the rider. Offence provision. Note Bicycle, motor bike and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary, and rider is defined in rule 17. (2) The rider of a motor bike or bicycle must not ride in a marked lane alongside more than 1 other rider in the marked lane, unless subrule (3) applies to the rider. Offence provision. Note Marked lane is defined in the dictionary. (3) The rider of a motor bike or bicycle may ride alongside more than 1 other rider if the rider is: (a) overtaking the other riders; or (b) permitted to do so under another law of this jurisdiction. Note Overtake is defined in the dictionary." John |
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I wrote:
You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: For completelness, there's more to rule 151: "(4) If the rider of a motor bike or bicycle is riding on a road that is not a multi-lane road alongside another rider, or in a marked lane alongside another rider in the marked lane, the rider must ride not over 1.5 metres from the other rider. Offence provision. (5) In this rule: road does not include a road-related area, but includes a bicycle path, shared path and any shoulder of the road. Note Bicycle path is defined in rule 239, road-related area is defined in rule 13, shared path is defined in rule 242, and shoulder is defined in rule 12." John |
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John Henderson wrote:
You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: And I believe that a third rider can legally overtake you. |
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Terryc wrote:
John Henderson wrote: You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: And I believe that a third rider can legally overtake you. As I understand it, a bunch riding two abreast can overtake another bunch riding two abreast (i.e., four riders across the lane). can anyone elaborate or correct? -- Bean Remove "yourfinger" before replying |
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Bean Long wrote:
Terryc wrote: And I believe that a third rider can legally overtake you. As I understand it, a bunch riding two abreast can overtake another bunch riding two abreast (i.e., four riders across the lane). can anyone elaborate or correct? I don't think so. I believe the rule specifically states that _a rider_ may overtake two riders riding side by side. Not _a pair of riders_ or _a bunch of riders_. The overtaking bunch would need to go single file. If there are two lanes however.... Theo |
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Bean Long Wrote: Terryc wrote: John Henderson wrote: You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: And I believe that a third rider can legally overtake you. As I understand it, a bunch riding two abreast can overtake another bunch riding two abreast (i.e., four riders across the lane). can anyone elaborate or correct? No. You can't have four abreast in a lane at any time. You can have a file of riders overtaking riders riding two abreast, creating three abreast for the duration of the overtake, in the same lane. If however it's a multi-lane road one group of riders is legally entitled to use the offside lane to overtake another group of riders riding two abreast. And riders are allowed to overtake those riders, potentially creating for the duration six abreast across two lanes. It could well be inconsiderate, it may well even be stupid, but it is legal as traffic rule 151 applies to each lane of a road and traffic rule 141 allows cyclists to overtake on the left and the right (from memory). -- EuanB |
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On Aug 10, 3:39 pm, EuanB EuanB.2v3...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote: Bean Long Wrote: Terryc wrote: John Henderson wrote: You're allowed to ride beside one other rider anywhere in Australia. This is enshrined in rule 151 of the Australian Road Rules: And I believe that a third rider can legally overtake you. As I understand it, a bunch riding two abreast can overtake another bunch riding two abreast (i.e., four riders across the lane). can anyone elaborate or correct? No. You can't have four abreast in a lane at any time. You can have a file of riders overtaking riders riding two abreast, creating three abreast for the duration of the overtake, in the same lane. If however it's a multi-lane road one group of riders is legally entitled to use the offside lane to overtake another group of riders riding two abreast. And riders are allowed to overtake those riders, potentially creating for the duration six abreast across two lanes. It could well be inconsiderate, it may well even be stupid, but it is legal as traffic rule 151 applies to each lane of a road and traffic rule 141 allows cyclists to overtake on the left and the right (from memory). -- EuanB- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hmmm, interesting (steepling fingers). Can anyone clarify the rules for an approved club race run on open roads? Is it the same, ie two abreast except when overtaking? |
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