Do you believe Floyd didn't use Testosterone in 06 TdF?

As far as I can tell, Floyd continues to state that he did not cheat,
using testosterone, in the '06 Tour de France. He sorta confesses to
human growth hormone, but maintains his innocence on the testosterone
issue that DQ'd him from the TdF and suspended him for two years.
Details here-
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...e_d&id=5215959

Do you believe that Floyd is telling the truth on this? Keeping in mind
that he has not retracted that claim, yet tells us he is being
completely honest in all-things-doping now?

Discuss.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Jun 6, 12:39*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
As far as I can tell, Floyd continues to state that he did not cheat,
using testosterone, in the '06 Tour de France. He sorta confesses to
human growth hormone, but maintains his innocence on the testosterone
issue that DQ'd him from the TdF and suspended him for two years.
Details here-http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/columns/story?columnist=ford_bo...

Do you believe that Floyd is telling the truth on this? Keeping in mind
that he has not retracted that claim, yet tells us he is being
completely honest in all-things-doping now?

Discuss.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I don't believe anything that Floyd says about anything. If he told
me that the sky was blue, I'd think he was lying. I'd love to see
those training diaries. It seems to me that buffoons and "very
complex code" are not a good mix. No wonder he got caught.

Floyd, Tyler, Lance...they're all reptiles incapable of empathy,
remorse, or thinking beyond self-preservation and gratification. It's
ironic that the whole foundation of Doping Omerta is built on the
premise that spineless, unethical, cowards will take each others
secrets to the grave.

On Jun 6, 7:50*am, NoDannyNo wrote:
On Jun 6, 12:39*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

As far as I can tell, Floyd continues to state that he did not cheat,
using testosterone, in the '06 Tour de France. He sorta confesses to
human growth hormone, but maintains his innocence on the testosterone
issue that DQ'd him from the TdF and suspended him for two years.
Details here-http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/columns/story?columnist=ford_bo...

Do you believe that Floyd is telling the truth on this? Keeping in mind
that he has not retracted that claim, yet tells us he is being
completely honest in all-things-doping now?

Discuss.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I don't believe anything that Floyd says about anything. *If he told
me that the sky was blue, I'd think he was lying. *I'd love to see
those training diaries. *It seems to me that buffoons and "very
complex code" are not a good mix. *No wonder he got caught.

Floyd, Tyler, Lance...they're all reptiles incapable of empathy,
remorse, or thinking beyond self-preservation and gratification. *It's
ironic that the whole foundation of Doping Omerta is built on the
premise that spineless, unethical, cowards will take each others
secrets to the grave.

Hear! Hear! I can't wait for the Mother Theresa- Mahatma Gandhi All
Indian BBQ and Bike Race League to get off the ground. Then we'll
have some clean bike racing! And good beef short ribs.

R

On Jun 6, 8:04*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Jun 6, 7:50*am, NoDannyNo wrote:









On Jun 6, 12:39*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

As far as I can tell, Floyd continues to state that he did not cheat,
using testosterone, in the '06 Tour de France. He sorta confesses to
human growth hormone, but maintains his innocence on the testosterone
issue that DQ'd him from the TdF and suspended him for two years.
Details here-http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/columns/story?columnist=ford_bo...

Do you believe that Floyd is telling the truth on this? Keeping in mind
that he has not retracted that claim, yet tells us he is being
completely honest in all-things-doping now?

Discuss.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I don't believe anything that Floyd says about anything. *If he told
me that the sky was blue, I'd think he was lying. *I'd love to see
those training diaries. *It seems to me that buffoons and "very
complex code" are not a good mix. *No wonder he got caught.

Floyd, Tyler, Lance...they're all reptiles incapable of empathy,
remorse, or thinking beyond self-preservation and gratification. *It's
ironic that the whole foundation of Doping Omerta is built on the
premise that spineless, unethical, cowards will take each others
secrets to the grave.

Hear! Hear! *I can't wait for the Mother Theresa- Mahatma Gandhi All
Indian BBQ and Bike Race League to get off the ground. *Then we'll
have some clean bike racing! *And good beef short ribs.

R

I bet Gandhi had a power-to-weight ratio that would make you soil your
chamois. Might have had a problem with that whole fasting thing on
some of the longer races, however. And, nobody knew from suffering
like Mother T. so bike racing in any form would be no challenge for
her.

Enjoy your short ribs. May they be free from Clenbuterol (or at least
contain undetectable amounts).

If he's telling the truth then 1 of 2 things happened:

1. He boosted blood with a tainted unit that he stored too closely
after he did some T.

2. The body may have stored some of the drug metabolites in tissues
and organs and they were released into the bloodstream during the
ultrahard efforts of the Tour.

(the equal of this is the release of THC as late as 30 days after a
chronic pot smoker stops using. THC stored in fat can be released
into the bloodstream from hard exercise)

Did he at some point in the year leading up to the TDF use T -
certainly yes. Is he denying this ? Or just the use during the
Tour?

On 6/6/2011 7:45 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:
If he's telling the truth then 1 of 2 things happened:

1. He boosted blood with a tainted unit that he stored too closely
after he did some T.

2. The body may have stored some of the drug metabolites in tissues
and organs and they were released into the bloodstream during the
ultrahard efforts of the Tour.

(the equal of this is the release of THC as late as 30 days after a
chronic pot smoker stops using. THC stored in fat can be released
into the bloodstream from hard exercise)

Did he at some point in the year leading up to the TDF use T -
certainly yes. Is he denying this ? Or just the use during the
Tour?



(1) wouldn't cause problems with his T/E ratio.
(2) wouldn't surface for the first time during the 3rd week.

F

That post was before I read the article. I think he's telling the
truth that he didn't dope during the tour but he's being evasive about
whether he used T in 2006. He may not know. I take some
multivitamins and other supplements but I don't always take them each
day and there's no way I can tell you what days I took last week or
last month yet alone 4 years ago.


Did he at some point in the year leading up to the TDF use T -
certainly yes. *Is he denying this ? * Or just the use during the
Tour?

On Jun 6, 8:15*am, Fred Flintstein
wrote:
On 6/6/2011 7:45 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:



If he's telling the truth then 1 of 2 things happened:

1. He boosted blood with a tainted unit that he stored too closely
after he did some T.

2. *The body may have stored some of the drug metabolites in tissues
and organs and they were released into the bloodstream during the
ultrahard efforts of the Tour.

(the equal of this is the release of THC as late as 30 days after a
chronic pot smoker stops using. *THC stored in fat can be released
into the bloodstream from hard exercise)

Did he at some point in the year leading up to the TDF use T -
certainly yes. *Is he denying this ? * Or just the use during the
Tour?

(1) wouldn't cause problems with his T/E ratio.
(2) wouldn't surface for the first time during the 3rd week.

F

You're stupid again BS. No rider knowing he could be tested would
dope during the Tour with something obvious. They boost because they
know they can or like Ricco use CERA because they THINK they can.

It's a logical conclusion that a rider wouldn't use T in the middle of
the Tour.

You have to follow some logic before making stupid unqualified
statements Bob.

But thinking about it again brings up one more possibility - residual
chamois T - maybe Floyd put on a pair of unwashed shorts that had T
on them - 6 hours of hard riding he might have absorbed enough to give
a positive test.

On 6/6/2011 8:23 AM, Anton Berlin wrote:

You're stupid again BS. No rider knowing he could be tested would
dope during the Tour with something obvious. They boost because they
know they can or like Ricco use CERA because they THINK they can.

It's a logical conclusion that a rider wouldn't use T in the middle of
the Tour.

You're trolling again. But in case you aren't, the search term
would be 'ball patch'.

F

On Jun 6, 7:23*am, NoDannyNo wrote:
On Jun 6, 8:04*am, RicodJour wrote:





On Jun 6, 7:50*am, NoDannyNo wrote:

On Jun 6, 12:39*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

As far as I can tell, Floyd continues to state that he did not cheat,
using testosterone, in the '06 Tour de France. He sorta confesses to
human growth hormone, but maintains his innocence on the testosterone
issue that DQ'd him from the TdF and suspended him for two years.
Details here-http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/columns/story?columnist=ford_bo...

Do you believe that Floyd is telling the truth on this? Keeping in mind
that he has not retracted that claim, yet tells us he is being
completely honest in all-things-doping now?

Discuss.

--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I don't believe anything that Floyd says about anything. *If he told
me that the sky was blue, I'd think he was lying. *I'd love to see
those training diaries. *It seems to me that buffoons and "very
complex code" are not a good mix. *No wonder he got caught.

Floyd, Tyler, Lance...they're all reptiles incapable of empathy,
remorse, or thinking beyond self-preservation and gratification. *It's
ironic that the whole foundation of Doping Omerta is built on the
premise that spineless, unethical, cowards will take each others
secrets to the grave.

Hear! Hear! *I can't wait for the Mother Theresa- Mahatma Gandhi All
Indian BBQ and Bike Race League to get off the ground. *Then we'll
have some clean bike racing! *And good beef short ribs.

R

I bet Gandhi had a power-to-weight ratio that would make you soil your
chamois. *Might have had a problem with that whole fasting thing on
some of the longer races, however. *And, nobody knew from suffering
like Mother T. so bike racing in any form would be no challenge for
her.

Enjoy your short ribs. *May they be free from Clenbuterol (or at least
contain undetectable amounts).

Ghandi had trouble standing under his own power at times.
Thank God constantly that you never were one of MT's patients. If you
don't know why, try doing some lookin' up, with a critical eye instead
of being snowed by the holy-holy BS.
Hint: it has to do with "suffering" and MT's views on pain medications
for other people besides herself.
Anton-- perhaps a word on this point?
--D-y