Front Derailleur Question (dumb variety)

Hi,

I bought some ergoshift levers on ebay (Centaur) and a rear derailleur
(Chorus 10speed) which some would say is a waste as I plan to put them on my
old steel commuter (which is outfitted with mid 80's Suntour (great stuff
for its day I think as it's still going strong). It's really sad for me as
I would have preferred to keep it all original spec but in keeping with
Boyle's Law I replaced the brake callipers, (couldn't buy pads anymore) and
things kind of spread out from there.

Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on getting
a new 10 speed one of those too?

The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable stop
for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might be able
to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with this)?

Many thanks for any thoughts you may have on this.

CN

On 2007-04-12, Campag_nut wrote:
Hi,

Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on getting
a new 10 speed one of those too?

Any friction shift front mech should work with any chainrings provided
the shapes matchs (which they should unless you've made big changes to
the chain ring size).

Cheers

Joel

"Campag_nut" wrote:

Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new Campag
compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping my
old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on
getting a new 10 speed one of those too?

You shouldn't have too much of a problem. It's the shifters that have all
the indexing, the front derailleur is still pretty much the same. I changed
mine from 7sp to 9sp and found I needed to use a vise-grip to squeeze the
side plates slightly closer together as the narrower chain demands a closer
derailleur cage. You'll probably have to do this to get it shifting
correctly with 10sp.

The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable
stop for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might
be able to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with
this)?

You need one of these:
http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/sh...able-stops.htm

I think they should be readily available from a quality LBS.

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Cheers
Peter

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Peter,

This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this now
a "vintage" concept?

CN

You need one of these:
http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/sh...able-stops.htm

I think they should be readily available from a quality LBS.

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Cheers
Peter

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"Campag_nut" wrote:
Peter,

This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this
now a "vintage" concept?

No as I understand it these things simply bolt into your down tube gear
lever bosses (you do have these on the frame?). Maybe not the ones on this
website, its not too clear (?), but have a look at a few bikes in your LBS.
Lots do have these bolted-on cable stops, and i'm sure you should be able to
get them, or order them in.

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Cheers
Peter

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On Apr 12, 8:17 pm, "Campag_nut" wrote:
Peter,

This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this now
a "vintage" concept?


If you can't find one locally (a clamp-on cablestop), contact
Ridgway's Cycles in Stafford, Brisbane - they have boxes of this sort
of stuff and I got one of these items from them. They told me they
often help out other bike shops.

Ridgway's Cycles609 Stafford Rd Stafford 4053 Phone/Fax (07) 3355 9653

Donga

Thanks mate, I'll give them a go!
CN
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On Apr 12, 8:17 pm, "Campag_nut" wrote:
Peter,

This means I have to find someone to braze them on??

I've looked around a bit and have not seen a clamp on vareity - is this
now
a "vintage" concept?


If you can't find one locally (a clamp-on cablestop), contact
Ridgway's Cycles in Stafford, Brisbane - they have boxes of this sort
of stuff and I got one of these items from them. They told me they
often help out other bike shops.

Ridgway's Cycles609 Stafford Rd Stafford 4053 Phone/Fax (07) 3355 9653

Donga

Campag_nut Wrote:
Hi,


Sorry the question after all that is, now that I have an entire new
Campag
compatible drivetrain incl rims, chain etc, can I get away with keeping
my
old friction shift front Suntour ARX derailleur, or should I plan on
getting
a new 10 speed one of those too?

The only other question is whether or not it is easy to obtain a cable
stop
for the down tube to run the cables properly (if I am lucky I might be
able
to cover the hole where the shifters are on the down tube with this)?

Many thanks for any thoughts you may have on this.

CN

I run 8 speed chorus levers onto a Suntour ARX front changer with no
problems. To stretch the issue all the way I have a 46/36/26 triple
set up which all work perfectly. I am only running 7 cogs on the back.
I'm not sure how the ARX front will handle the variation in chainline
if you have more than that.

Shouldn't be too hard to find a simple band adapter to provide cable
stops on the down tube. These were common for bikes that had the
shifters mounted on the stem. For the ability to fine tune the cables
it may be better to get some of the units which attached to the
braze-ons for the down tube shifters as they have barrel adjusters for
cable tension.

RoryW


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Rory Williams