Cyclist dies after hitting car door

In article ,
Bean Long wrote:

The report makes it sound as
though he ran into an open door like it had been open for some time.

That's probably just a result of the reporter being legally cautious.

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Shane Stanley

On 2007-04-15, rooman wrote:
marked bike lanes exacerbate this lethal aspect of riding when we are
compelled to use them. Copenhagen lanes might remove this but will not
overcome the other bad aspects of removing adult riders from where they
fare best , on the roadway as vehicular traffic.

Actually, Copenhagen-style lanes might *reduce* this, but they will not
*remove* it. Remember that cars can have passengers ...

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On 2007-04-16, Shane Stanley (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
In article ,
Bean Long wrote:

The report makes it sound as
though he ran into an open door like it had been open for some time.

That's probably just a result of the reporter being legally cautious.

That's a very generous way of putting it.

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On 2007-04-16, Stuart Lamble (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On 2007-04-15, rooman wrote:
marked bike lanes exacerbate this lethal aspect of riding when we are
compelled to use them. Copenhagen lanes might remove this but will not
overcome the other bad aspects of removing adult riders from where they
fare best , on the roadway as vehicular traffic.

Actually, Copenhagen-style lanes might *reduce* this, but they will not
*remove* it.

Actually, the Melbourne style Copenhagen lanes do factor that in by
having a separator.

Remember that cars can have passengers ...

Less than 1/5th of the time. Sad in't it -- an average of 1.2 last
time I looked.

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TimC wrote:
On 2007-04-16, Shane Stanley (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
In article ,
Bean Long wrote:

The report makes it sound as
though he ran into an open door like it had been open for some time.
That's probably just a result of the reporter being legally cautious.

What... placing the blame entirely on the cyclist?

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Bean

Remove "yourfinger" before replying

In article ,
Bean Long wrote:

What... placing the blame entirely on the cyclist?

No -- carefully avoiding accusing someone without evidence. The fact
that it doesn't say the motorist opened the door *as* the cyclist was
passing doesn't imply he or she did or didn't -- it just means the
reporter is not making up things they don't know. In most circles, this
is considered a good thing.

More to the point, it doesn't make any difference how long the door was
open.

--
Shane Stanley

In article
,
TimC wrote:

That's a very generous way of putting it.

Not really. They're trained to consider the legal implications of what
they write. It's not like UseNet.

--
Shane Stanley

On Apr 16, 9:48 am, rooman rooman.2p3...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote:
car doors are seriously lethal to riders, and often when not fatal
cause horrific chest injuries. They can also be lethal to the very
drivers who open them without thinking when taken out by a another
vehicle, like a truck.

I've often thought about this....

I'm very wary of car doors, but I figure if I'm in a situation where
I'm going to hit, I'm steering INTO the car (and possibly soft door-
opener) rather than into that very sharp unforgiving edge.

duncan

On Apr 16, 3:13 pm, "Duncan" wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:48 am, rooman rooman.2p3...@no-

mx.forums.cyclingforums.com wrote:
car doors are seriously lethal to riders, and often when not fatal
cause horrific chest injuries. They can also be lethal to the very
drivers who open them without thinking when taken out by a another
vehicle, like a truck.

I've often thought about this....

I'm very wary of car doors, but I figure if I'm in a situation where
I'm going to hit, I'm steering INTO the car (and possibly soft door-
opener) rather than into that very sharp unforgiving edge.

You can always avoid being in that situation in the first place - stay
out of range.

A college was once doored by a passenger while
passing to the left of a line of cars waiting
at the lights. Some cars really do have them,
and sometimes they even get out - at the oddest
places.

Take care out there...