So who all has noticed ...

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
On 05/30/2005 01:51 AM, in article
, "Kurgan Gringioni"
wrote:

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
... that USPS/Discovery Channel has won 4 of the last 5 Grand Tours in which
they have participated?




Dumbass -

You have your head up your ass. Anyone who reads rbr realizes that
Discover sucks.



Discover is responsible for 20+% of Morgan Stanley's revenue and annual
profit, which makes me wonder what will happen to my MWD stock after the
spin-off ... Thankfully, I'll have some Discover stock as well.

But what the **** does that have to do with Discovery Channel?



thanks,

K. Gringioni.


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didn't columbus discovery america?
e-RICHIE

Amerigo Vespucci

On 30 May 2005 23:12:13 -0700, Kenny wrote:
e-RICHIE wrote:
didn't columbus discovery america?

Amerigo Vespucci

Didn't you mean to say: "So that's why Trek switched to carbon!"


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On 30 May 2005 23:12:13 -0700, Kenny wrote:
e-RICHIE wrote:
didn't columbus discovery america?

Amerigo Vespucci

FYI:

Colombus discovered mailand America in his third voyage (1498). Of the 4
voyages of Amerigo Vespucci 1497-8, 1499, 1501, 1503 reported in "Four
Voyages of Amerigo Vespucci" (1504 ) two have been proven to be fakes
initially made up by some Italian author. Unfortunately this document is the
one that lead to the Alsacian cartographer Waldseemüller to atribute to
Vespucci the discovery and the name of the continent. But the whole credit
should go to Colombus.

Even on his 1499 Vespucci was only a member of the expedition of Alonso de
Hojeda (but the power of Italian networking of the time helped him to
attribute himself the credit).

By 1513 Waldseemüller seem to have realized there was a problem and gave
much more credit to Columbus, but by then the damages was made and in 1538
Mercator had already assigned the name America to the northern part of the
continent too (so in fact south america was America first).

"Today these parts of the earth, Europe, Asia, and Africa, have been
completely explored, and a fouth part has been discovered by Amerigo
Vespucci, as may be seen in the attached charts. Since Europe and Asia have
received the names of women, I see no reason why we should not call this
other place Amerige or America, after the wise man who discovered it"

- Martin Waldseemüller 1508


"Kenny" wrote in message
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Amerigo Vespucci

in 464560 20050530 122704 "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote:

2003 Tour de France - Lance Armstrong - USPS
2003 Vuelta a España - Roberto Heras - USPS
2004 Tour de France - Lance Armstrong - USPS
2004 Vuelta a España - Roberto Heras - Liberty Seguros
2005 Giro d'Italia - Paolo Savoldelli - Discovery Channel

Looks like 4 out of the last 5 to me ...

What about 2004 Giro ????

On 06/01/2005 05:51 AM, in article ,
"Bob Martin" wrote:

in 464560 20050530 122704 "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote:

2003 Tour de France - Lance Armstrong - USPS
2003 Vuelta a España - Roberto Heras - USPS
2004 Tour de France - Lance Armstrong - USPS
2004 Vuelta a España - Roberto Heras - Liberty Seguros
2005 Giro d'Italia - Paolo Savoldelli - Discovery Channel

Looks like 4 out of the last 5 to me ...

What about 2004 Giro ????


USPS did not participate in the 2004 Giro.

The original question asked who all noticed that the USPS/Discovery Channel
team won 4 of the last 5 Grand Tours in which they participated.


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