Do more Americans ride bike on the road or sidewalk?

Jens Müller wrote:
Marz schrieb:
3, Bikes are a lot cheaper.

Does that include _good_ bikes? Are there even _good_ bikes for
sales?

4, There is no helmet law here in Texas ( for bicycles or
motorcycles)
5, You can ride on the road or on the pavement (oops sidewalk)

The sidewalk is not part of the road?

No. A "sidewalk" is separated from the road, usually by a strip of
grass maybe 2-4 meters. In business districts, the sidewalk will be
raised above street level.

If there is a space for walking at the side of the road, at the same
level of the asphalt, this would be called a "shoulder". This might
be a paved shoulder or a gravel shoulder.

On Aug 29, 12:04*pm, Pat wrote:

All I need to know about the UK I know.

Funny, but I live in the US and would not dare to say that everything
I need to know about the US, I know. *Each of us knows very little --
even about topics in which might be considered experts. *So to say
that you know everything about a whole country -- one in which you do
not even live -- is astonishing. *The wreaks of the most amazing
arrogance one could imagine. *No wonder no one likes the US. *(:-(

At least then I jokes about them, first of all it was obviously a joke
and secondly, it was a joke to show how un-enlightened I am. *But your
response is ... well, incredible.

I hope that members of the various N.G.s that you have crossed posted
to think that all Americans are as arrogant and ignorant as you a
maybe just most of us.

I also hear that the British have a good sense of humour, and since
they haven't complained about my tall statement... it seems to be
true.

But notice I didn't say "I know everything about the UK," but "All I
need to know"...

What I need to know about America though is "most Americans ride bikes
on sidewalks."

On Aug 29, 12:21*pm, _
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote:
On Aug 29, 12:00*am, "Jack May" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

....

... Then the issue of what
peo ple ride bikes where starts
t o make sense.
.Why do 99% of Americans do NOT commute by bike? Are they
afraid of the
..road or what?

(I put in some because you make your response difficult to read
because you use crap softeware)

People decide on the mode of their commute by the perceived cost. * They
typically choose the lowest cost transportation mode.

The perceived cost has been found to = wage rate * waiting time *+ half wage
rate * travel time + dollar cost for the trip

A bike has a very high cost of time for most people. * They can not afford
the cost of time for a bike compared to the cost of driving.

Bikes and transit are far more expensive than cars for most people so they
don't use bikes or transit for their commute.

This is one of the results of Professor at UC Berkely who won a Nobel Prize
for determing how people make decision in real life including selecting
which commute mode they use.

Well, there's another factor to be determined by the polls...

HOW MANY STAY AWAY FROM CYCLING NOT TO GET HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE
GOT?

How so?

As cycling is healthier by a factor of about 5 than life itself, based on
the risk of death per unit time, which it can be assumed tracks the risk of
getting "HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE GOT" reasonably well, anyone who stays
away from cycling for that reason has no more congitive capacity than
TollJ.- Hide quoted text -

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But if you are couch potato you are less likely to have a sprain or be
run over by a car, and thus they figure that potato couching is better
--at least in the short term.

Originally Posted by SSP
"Yep...just another pointless troll poll."

There are all kinds of polls out there...

Will Your Cell Phone Make You Rude?
There's no clear, consistent link between the use of communication
devices and rudeness. People who never use cell phones are less apt
than users to say they're sometimes too busy to be as polite as they'd
like; but impoliteness does not increase as frequency of cell phone
use rises.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/US/story?id=1574155

The polls I'm dying to see a

Does riding an SUV make you stupid?
(notice SUVs and phones go hand in hand)

and

Does riding a bike make you smart?
(obviously you prove it wrong, but it'll be interesting anyway)


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"Riding a bike costs peanuts --which is why monkeys love biking"

http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote88

On Aug 29, 12:42*pm, "ZBicyclist" wrote:

The sidewalk is not part of the road?

No. A "sidewalk" is separated from the road, usually by a strip of
grass maybe 2-4 meters. *In business districts, the sidewalk will be
raised above street level.

If there is a space for walking at the side of the road, at the same
level of the asphalt, this would be called a "shoulder". *This might
be a paved shoulder or a gravel shoulder.

I think we should back to the horse... No pollution, plenty of
fertilizer and can handle the lack of sidewalks.

Ah, and no more paved parking lots in America.

As cycling is healthier by a factor of about 5 than life itself, based on
the risk of death per unit time, which it can be assumed tracks the risk of
getting "HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE GOT" reasonably well, anyone who stays
away from cycling for that reason has no more congitive capacity than
TollJ.- Hide quoted text -

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See? If she had been a couch potato this wouldn't have happened to
her...

"SANTA BARBARA, Calif. - Barbara Warren, one of the world's elite
endurance athletes in her age group and one-half of a well-known pair
of triathlete twins, has died after breaking her neck in a bike crash
at the Santa Barbara Triathlon. She was 65."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/...us/obit_warren

She probably would have died of something else --or not.

It boils down to what's more fun, the soap operas or cycling?

Originally Posted by SSP
"Then why don't you STFU and go hang out on CouchPotatoForums.net?"


Couch potatos may be happy the way they are. But the ones that are
raging are the ones that want to ride bikes and yet they can't.

I think couch potatoes should be left out of any polls and even
national elections because they elect the politicians that promise
them cheaper gas!

_ schrieb:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana wrote:
On Aug 29, 12:00 am, "Jack May" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
HOW MANY STAY AWAY FROM CYCLING NOT TO GET HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE
GOT?
How so?
As cycling is healthier by a factor of about 5 than life itself, based on
the risk of death per unit time, which it can be assumed tracks the risk of
getting "HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE GOT" reasonably well, anyone who stays
away from cycling for that reason has no more congitive capacity than
TollJ.

Interesting figure! What's the source to read about in detail?
regards
Tadej
--
"Frauen sind als Gesprächspartner nun einmal interessanter,
weil das Gespräch nicht beendet ist, wenn nichts sinnvolles mehr zu
sagen ist."
David Kastrup in d.t.r

On Aug 29, 8:16*am, Jens Müller wrote:
bluezfolk schrieb:

As for commuting, my location is not bike commute friendly, *I'd like
to ride to work but getting past the highway interchange is a bit
scary.

What exactly is so scary there? Do you have to change lanes into
fast-moving traffic? What speed is driven there?

The scary part is passing thru an underpass which has both the on-ramp
and off-ramp in a space of about 200 feet, and no shoulders on either
side of the road. Traffic on the on ramp is entering at about 50-55
mph and the off ramp traffic is merging into the same lane and slowing
to about 30-35.

"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 12:00 am, "Jack May" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...

...Th en the issue of what
peopl e ride bikes where
start s
to make sense.
.Why do 99% of Americans do NOT commute by bike? Are they
afraid of the
..road or what?

(I put in some because you make your response difficult to
read
because you use crap softeware)

People decide on the mode of their commute by the perceived cost. They
typically choose the lowest cost transportation mode.

The perceived cost has been found to = wage rate * waiting time + half
wage
rate * travel time + dollar cost for the trip

A bike has a very high cost of time for most people. They can not afford
the cost of time for a bike compared to the cost of driving.

Bikes and transit are far more expensive than cars for most people so they
don't use bikes or transit for their commute.

This is one of the results of Professor at UC Berkely who won a Nobel
Prize
for determing how people make decision in real life including selecting
which commute mode they use.

Google Groups ugh
reply: Well, there's another factor to be determined by the polls...

Google Groups ugh
reply: HOW MANY STAY AWAY FROM CYCLING NOT TO GET HURT AND LOSE ALL THEY'VE
GOT?

That may be a minor factor, but the economic analysis determines the main
factors. Your fear factor probably explains very little.

Google Groups ugh reply: I explain, here is not
like in the UK or something where you are

covered by health insurance and you can afford, say, to have an
emergency
operation and physical therapy.

So what? If you are killed on your bike, none of those mean any thing