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Following on from James Annan's message. . .
[Bizarre story of Little Togo trying to ban cycling to work snipped] Why not organise the other cyclists. Find as many tandems as you can (you already have 3) get the other cyclists on-board them and swoop after getting the TV involved. Have the other cyclists on ordinary bikes who won't fit on a tandem. (Or a uni-cycle - That should bust the blood vessels of the pea-brain bureaucrat.) Your fellow cyclists are your best allies, and the TV coverage should rub it in. I suspect that there will be plenty of people who hate Little Togo's guts and won't be sorry to see him taken down a notch or two. My knowledge of Japanese culture is slim but it might be an idea to hint to fellow cyclists that you have already been contacted by a _foreign_ TV station that wants to run the story about the 'stupidity of little yellow people' and it might be an idea to deal with it now and locally otherwise it will become another stick to hit them with. There is plenty enough in this story to make it journalistically worth-while. [Anyway you need protection - It's not right - The little people being bullied like this - I have this vision of 'The Seven Tandemi' - what an epic film that'll make... First collect your Tandemii - The old boy found gently mending punctures outside his hut through to the kid with the mongrel bike built from salvaged parts and held together with bits of bent wire. Second the spiritual part - The practising the exact arm signals, greasing the chain, truing the wheels, polishing the h****ts and putting anti-mist on goggles. Third putting on the fighting gear - Lycra, raincapes and cycle clips. Finally they all die violently in a cinematic maelstrom.] -- PETER FOX Not the same since the deckchair business folded www.eminent.demon.co.uk/wcc.htm Witham Cycling Campaign www.eminent.demon.co.uk/rides East Anglian Pub cycle rides |
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James Annan writes:
The real reason behind this is that my wife and I are recidivist criminals. Yes, we ride a tandem (we both work at the same lab). It seems that way back in the mists of time, some careless bureaucrat drafted a law that was intended to prevent more than one person riding on a standard bicycle, but which accidentally included tandems in the prohibition. (Despite the law, carrying a passenger is very common, and of course no-one enforces such a petty nonsense anyway.) Some prefectures have actually changed the law to allow tandems, but unfortunately not the one where we live and work. Would the solution not be for one of you to get off a hundred yards from the gate, and for one to arrive a single rider on a single (tandem) bike and the other to arrive on foot? Face saved, no problem, Herbert-from-security San. Sayonara. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ Windows 95: You, you, you! You make a grown man cry... M. Jagger/K. Richards |
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"Peter Fox" wrote in message ... [Anyway you need protection - It's not right - The little people being bullied like this - I have this vision of 'The Seven Tandemi' - Is that 7 tandems or 3 tandems and a tag-along? pk |
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James Annan radiated into the WorldWideWait: Well, it hasn't been yet. But it has been threatened. This is at a Govt funded (quasi-independent, the management structure is somewhat obscure) scientific research lab in Japan (http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/eng/). The main goal of the lab is the understanding and prediction of climate change, and it issues plenty of warm fuzzy statemente about "Protecting our Mother Earth", but when the bureaucratic chips are down, it seems that it is more important to issue diktats and invent rules to outlaw one of the most environmentally-friendly behaviours possible. The real reason behind this is that my wife and I are recidivist criminals. Yes, we ride a tandem (we both work at the same lab). It seems that way back in the mists of time, some careless bureaucrat drafted a law that was intended to prevent more than one person riding on a standard bicycle, but which accidentally included tandems in the prohibition. (Despite the law, carrying a passenger is very common, and of course no-one enforces such a petty nonsense anyway.) Some prefectures have actually changed the law to allow tandems, but unfortunately not the one where we live and work. Anyway, we rode a tandem before we came to Japan, and continued after our arrival a few years ago. Some bureaucrat noticed this immediately, and made disapproving noises, but we ignored him - he refused to give us an official FRSGC badge for the bike, but we found this apparent reprimand surprisingly easy to cope with. Three years later, and he (or perhaps some replacement) is back with a vengeance. He has insisted that we cannot continue to ride the tandem to work. If we continue, he will ban all cycling for all members of staff. The justification for this escalation (and whether is it in principle legally possible) is not clear, and we haven't told any other cyclists yet. We don't want to stop riding the tandem, as it is faster, safer and easier than riding single bikes, and more fun too. People recognise us on our regular route, and are friendly towards us, plus we've got a good tandem (um...3 tandems) and no suitable single bikes. Every day we pass the same police boxes, we have even met some policemen and of course they are not bothered about us "flouting" such a petty, trivial and obviously accidental law. In Japan (in a clear contrast with the UK), the commute to work is partly the responsibility of the employer. For instance, an injury during the commute counts as a industrial accident, and the employer must pay for subsequent medical bills and sick pay (the latter which for non-work-related injury and illness does not appear to be a statutory requirement, or even part of our generally reasonable working conditions). It is not clear to me why this responsibility should give them the right to dictate methods of travel to work, but I have heard of another company where driving to work was banned, and someone was fired after having a crash and getting caught. In the UK, I would happily tell the bureaucrat to **** off, but unfortunately workers' rights are still a rather foreign concept here and it is clear that any foreigner who kicks up too much of a fuss gets sent home in short order (I have already caused more than my share of trouble, and now is definitely not a good time to start any more). Bureaucrats aside, I like it here, and am not in a rush to leave. But I don't take kindly to small-minded petty jobsworths trying to push me around. Any hints and tips for a sensible strategy will be gratefully received. He must have a boss and that boss must have a boss and... Keep going up with appointments wherein you point out that this is abysmal stupidity. It's just the sort of story that newspapers would love, especially with all names & titles & quotes (when I do something like this, I have a microrecorder running in my breast pocket). |
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James Annan wrote:
Well, it hasn't been yet. But it has been threatened. This is at a Govt funded (quasi-independent, the management structure is somewhat obscure) scientific research lab in Japan Cruel race ;-) |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:15:29 +0900, James Annan
brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed: Well, it hasn't been yet. But it has been threatened. This is at a Govt funded (quasi-independent, the management structure is somewhat obscure) scientific research lab in Japan (http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/eng/). The main goal of the lab is the understanding and prediction of climate change, and it issues plenty of warm fuzzy statemente about "Protecting our Mother Earth", but when the bureaucratic chips are down, it seems that it is more important to issue diktats and invent rules to outlaw one of the most environmentally-friendly behaviours possible. The real reason behind this is that my wife and I are recidivist criminals. Yes, we ride a tandem (we both work at the same lab). It seems that way back in the mists of time, some careless bureaucrat drafted a law that was intended to prevent more than one person riding on a standard bicycle, but which accidentally included tandems in the prohibition. (Despite the law, carrying a passenger is very common, and of course no-one enforces such a petty nonsense anyway.) Some prefectures have actually changed the law to allow tandems, but unfortunately not the one where we live and work. Anyway, we rode a tandem before we came to Japan, and continued after our arrival a few years ago. Some bureaucrat noticed this immediately, and made disapproving noises, but we ignored him - he refused to give us an official FRSGC badge for the bike, but we found this apparent reprimand surprisingly easy to cope with. Three years later, and he (or perhaps some replacement) is back with a vengeance. He has insisted that we cannot continue to ride the tandem to work. If we continue, he will ban all cycling for all members of staff. The justification for this escalation (and whether is it in principle legally possible) is not clear, and we haven't told any other cyclists yet. We don't want to stop riding the tandem, as it is faster, safer and easier than riding single bikes, and more fun too. People recognise us on our regular route, and are friendly towards us, plus we've got a good tandem (um...3 tandems) and no suitable single bikes. Every day we pass the same police boxes, we have even met some policemen and of course they are not bothered about us "flouting" such a petty, trivial and obviously accidental law. In Japan (in a clear contrast with the UK), the commute to work is partly the responsibility of the employer. For instance, an injury during the commute counts as a industrial accident, and the employer must pay for subsequent medical bills and sick pay (the latter which for non-work-related injury and illness does not appear to be a statutory requirement, or even part of our generally reasonable working conditions). It is not clear to me why this responsibility should give them the right to dictate methods of travel to work, but I have heard of another company where driving to work was banned, and someone was fired after having a crash and getting caught. In the UK, I would happily tell the bureaucrat to **** off, but unfortunately workers' rights are still a rather foreign concept here and it is clear that any foreigner who kicks up too much of a fuss gets sent home in short order (I have already caused more than my share of trouble, and now is definitely not a good time to start any more). Bureaucrats aside, I like it here, and am not in a rush to leave. But I don't take kindly to small-minded petty jobsworths trying to push me around. Any hints and tips for a sensible strategy will be gratefully received. Okay....now I get it. Short answer is that both you and your employer are being obstinate asses, though they do come off looking slightly better than you. How do you think it looks for a quasi-governmental agency to have their employees breaking the law on their commute to work every day? Advice: 1. Get two bicycles 2. Get your ass off your shoulders 3. Give us all this from the beginning instead of this roundabout bull**** -- Michael Cash "I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of a high school transcript." Dr. Howard Sprague Dean of Admissions Mount Pilot College |
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James Annan wrote:
In the UK, I would happily tell the bureaucrat to **** off, but unfortunately workers' rights are still a rather foreign concept here and it is clear that any foreigner who kicks up too much of a fuss gets sent home in short order (I have already caused more than my share of trouble, and now is definitely not a good time to start any more). Bureaucrats aside, I like it here, and am not in a rush to leave. But I don't take kindly to small-minded petty jobsworths trying to push me around. Any hints and tips for a sensible strategy will be gratefully received. Welcome to the Japanese culture I came to love so much. What you need is a good Japanese friend of standing who can "negotiate" with the official causing you problems. It can be solved but remember "the nail that stands out will be hammered down" so don't try aggression or disobedience - it doesn't work in the way it might in England and you will just get a hardening of attitudes. The phrase you need is "go with the flow". It needs to be negotiated by a respected Japanese in Japanese (using all the subtleties of the language which only native speakers have mastered). Ganbatte! Tony |
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Peter Fox suggested:
Why not organise the other cyclists. Find as many tandems as you can (you already have 3) get the other cyclists on-board them and swoop after getting the TV involved. Have the other cyclists on ordinary bikes who won't fit on a tandem. (Or a uni-cycle - That should bust the blood vessels of the pea-brain bureaucrat.) I'm not sure the unicycle would cause as many eyelids to bat in Japan as in the UK. Japan produces some of the best unicyclists in the world and it's not uncommon for Japanese children to receive unicycling lessons at school. Sounds like a good idea though (as does teaching kids to ride unicycles at school). -- Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address) http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/ "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine |
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"James Annan" wrote in message
... Well, it hasn't been yet. But it has been threatened. This is at a Govt funded (quasi-independent, the management structure is somewhat obscure) scientific research lab in Japan (http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/eng/). The main goal of the lab is the understanding and prediction of climate change, and it issues plenty of warm fuzzy statemente about "Protecting our Mother Earth", but when the bureaucratic chips are down, it seems that it is more important to issue diktats and invent rules to outlaw one of the most environmentally-friendly behaviours possible. The real reason behind this is that my wife and I are recidivist criminals. Yes, we ride a tandem (we both work at the same lab). It seems that way back in the mists of time, some careless bureaucrat drafted a law that was intended to prevent more than one person riding on a standard bicycle, but which accidentally included tandems in the prohibition. (Despite the law, carrying a passenger is very common, and of course no-one enforces such a petty nonsense anyway.) Some prefectures have actually changed the law to allow tandems, but unfortunately not the one where we live and work. Anyway, we rode a tandem before we came to Japan, and continued after our arrival a few years ago. Some bureaucrat noticed this immediately, and made disapproving noises, but we ignored him - he refused to give us an official FRSGC badge for the bike, but we found this apparent reprimand surprisingly easy to cope with. Three years later, and he (or perhaps some replacement) is back with a vengeance. He has insisted that we cannot continue to ride the tandem to work. If we continue, he will ban all cycling for all members of staff. The justification for this escalation (and whether is it in principle legally possible) is not clear, and we haven't told any other cyclists yet. We don't want to stop riding the tandem, as it is faster, safer and easier than riding single bikes, and more fun too. People recognise us on our regular route, and are friendly towards us, plus we've got a good tandem (um...3 tandems) and no suitable single bikes. Every day we pass the same police boxes, we have even met some policemen and of course they are not bothered about us "flouting" such a petty, trivial and obviously accidental law. In Japan (in a clear contrast with the UK), the commute to work is partly the responsibility of the employer. For instance, an injury during the commute counts as a industrial accident, and the employer must pay for subsequent medical bills and sick pay (the latter which for non-work-related injury and illness does not appear to be a statutory requirement, or even part of our generally reasonable working conditions). It is not clear to me why this responsibility should give them the right to dictate methods of travel to work, but I have heard of another company where driving to work was banned, and someone was fired after having a crash and getting caught. In the UK, I would happily tell the bureaucrat to **** off, but unfortunately workers' rights are still a rather foreign concept here and it is clear that any foreigner who kicks up too much of a fuss gets sent home in short order (I have already caused more than my share of trouble, and now is definitely not a good time to start any more). Bureaucrats aside, I like it here, and am not in a rush to leave. But I don't take kindly to small-minded petty jobsworths trying to push me around. Any hints and tips for a sensible strategy will be gratefully received. It sounds like the boss has some good reasons for his decision ... not great, but good. I'm sure he doesn't appreciate a foreigner trying to push him around either. If his beef is that the company may be responsible for you while you're commuting to work, couldn't you relieve the company of this burden? Have a lawyer draw up some legal jive saying you exempt the company from any responsibilities outside of work. If you feel that strongly about it, then I'm sure you wouldn't mind giving up your medical coverage in case of an accident, or any kind of benefits you would receive if injured while commuting. C.Q.C. |
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From my experience of Japanese culture, the solution is to find a way that
doesn't involve 'loss of face' to the Japanese involved. Therefore parking the bike round the corner, but well out of sight, seems the best solution. |
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