City of London Police to trial ebikes

http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

On Jan 12, 12:25*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

But at least they are legal bikes, unlike Doug's machine.

On Jan 12, 12:25*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

And?

PhilO wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:25 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

And?

it is about cycles, in the UK, bizarre I realise, but there it is.

On Jan 12, 1:44*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
PhilO wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:25 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

And?

it is about cycles, in the UK, bizarre I realise, but there it is.

As opposed to motor carriages which require licensing, taxing and
insuring like Dougs bike ?

On Jan 12, 1:44*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
PhilO wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:25 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

And?

it is about cycles, in the UK, bizarre I realise, but there it is.

Do you plan to post everything that has anything to do with cycles in
the UK?
Don't go all Marie on us - you must have had an opinion on this for
you to post the link.
What is it?

On Jan 12, 12:47*pm, PeterG wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:25*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

But at least they are legal bikes, unlike Doug's machine.

I take it you haven't even bothered to read the source which says
quite clearly...

"E-bikes are legally classified as bicycles, provided they have motors
of 250 watts or less".

So that's finally sorted then. The cops will be using bikes with the
same wattage as mine. QED.

LOL!

Doug.

PhilO wrote:
On Jan 12, 1:44 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
PhilO wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:25 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

And?

it is about cycles, in the UK, bizarre I realise, but there it is.

Do you plan to post everything that has anything to do with cycles in
the UK?
Don't go all Marie on us - you must have had an opinion on this for
you to post the link.
What is it?

it is interesting news for us cyclists. Is it necessary to get your
moderators approval before posting anything now?

On Jan 13, 7:06*am, Doug wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:47*pm, PeterG wrote: On Jan 12, 12:25*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

But at least they are legal bikes, unlike Doug's machine.

I take it you haven't even bothered to read the source which says
quite clearly...

"E-bikes are legally classified as bicycles, provided they have motors
of 250 watts or less".

So that's finally sorted then. The cops will be using bikes with the
same wattage as mine. QED.

LOL!

Doug.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ions/DG_180320

Pedal cycles covered by EAPC regulations

The EAPC regulations are in place for certain bicycles, tandem
bicycles and tricycles that have pedals and an electric motor that
provides assistance to the vehicle.

The following requirements must apply:

* the electric motor must not be able to propel the pedal cycle
when it’s travelling more than 15 miles per hour
* the maximum authorised mass of the pedal cycle, including
battery but without rider, isn’t heavier than 40 kilograms (kg) for
bicycle and 60kg for tandem bicycles and tricycles
* the maximum power output of the motor isn’t higher than 200
watts for bicycles and 250 watts for tandem bicycle and tricycles
* the bicycle must have a plate showing the manufacturer, the
nominal voltage of the battery, and the power output of the motor

If the pedal cycle meets these requirements it won’t need to be
registered, taxed or insured and you won’t need a driving licence.
You’ll need to be over 14 years old to be able to ride an EAPC.

Looks like the police are breaking the law as much as you.

On Jan 13, 8:59*am, PeterG wrote:
On Jan 13, 7:06*am, Doug wrote:



On Jan 12, 12:47*pm, PeterG wrote: On Jan 12, 12:25*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

http://www.securitypark.co.uk/securi...cle265732.html

But at least they are legal bikes, unlike Doug's machine.

I take it you haven't even bothered to read the source which says
quite clearly...

"E-bikes are legally classified as bicycles, provided they have motors
of 250 watts or less".

So that's finally sorted then. The cops will be using bikes with the
same wattage as mine. QED.

LOL!

Doug.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...atCanYouDriveA...

Pedal cycles covered by EAPC regulations

The EAPC regulations are in place for certain bicycles, tandem
bicycles and tricycles that have pedals and an electric motor that
provides assistance to the vehicle.

The following requirements must apply:

* * * the electric motor must not be able to propel the pedal cycle
when it’s travelling more than 15 miles per hour
* * * the maximum authorised mass of the pedal cycle, including
battery but without rider, isn’t heavier than 40 kilograms (kg) for
bicycle and 60kg for tandem bicycles and tricycles
* * * the maximum power output of the motor isn’t higher than 200
watts for bicycles and 250 watts for tandem bicycle and tricycles
* * * the bicycle must have a plate showing the manufacturer, the
nominal voltage of the battery, and the power output of the motor

If the pedal cycle meets these requirements it won’t need to be
registered, taxed or insured and you won’t need a driving licence.
You’ll need to be over 14 years old to be able to ride an EAPC.

Looks like the police are breaking the law as much as you.


Alternatively, the police know the regulations better than you and
your source hasn't been updated yet, which is more likely, and
especially as 250 Watt machines have been on widespread sale in the UK
for quite a while.

Let me spell it out for you simply so that you and your fellow
motorists here can finally comprehend and turn their attention instead
to their own illegal forms of personal transport.

250 Watt machines are legal on the continent and the British law on
200 Watt machines is/was under review. So it looks as if the decision
has finally been made to standardise with the EU, which was inevitable
anyway, otherwise all the sellers of e-bikes here would be in
contravention and have to scrap their all their stock or modify it and
loads of e-cyclist would be taken off the roads Can you imagine that?

You don't know how good it is to know that the motorists who infest
these newsgroups have been so wrong for so long about my e-bike.

LOL!

Doug.