A firm but wide saddle - recommend one!

As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

I've been riding a Brooks B17 for the last 5 or 6 years and
want to experiment with something else. Brooks fit me quite
well when new, so something with a roughly similar shape
(but flatter) would be good.

Thanks!
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What was I thinking?

On 17 Apr 2009 10:25:00 GMT, Baka Dasai said (and I quote):
As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

Is there no saddle that fits this description?
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What was I thinking?

Baka Dasai wrote:
On 17 Apr 2009 10:25:00 GMT, Baka Dasai said (and I quote):
As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

Is there no saddle that fits this description?

Check out the "E3" saddles from Perfomance & Nashbar. The lighter one (ti
version) is firmer due to less padding I think. Can usually find it on sale
for $40 or so.

Bill "I like it but(t) friends call it The Crippler" S.

On Apr 18, 8:42*pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Baka Dasai wrote:
On 17 Apr 2009 10:25:00 GMT, Baka Dasai said (and I quote):
As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

Is there no saddle that fits this description?

Check out the "E3" saddles from Perfomance & Nashbar. *The lighter one (ti
version) is firmer due to less padding I think. *Can usually find it on sale
for $40 or so.

Bill "I like it but(t) friends call it The Crippler" S.

Yes, the E3 is designed for perineal protection and has a flat
platform, but it is wayyyy narrower than a B17. I have a lot of
trouble keeping my sit bones centered on an E3, with similar
difficulty on an Alias 130 or a Toupe 130. I do fit well on a Toupe
143. I don't have a B17 so I can't compare directly, but I do have an
Ideale 92 long frame (same dimensions as a B17), and it is too wide,
causing inner leg chafing.

Width matters.

I think I saw that E3 had come out with a wider version, but I haven't
seen it for sale.

On Apr 27, 8:32*am, Ken Freeman wrote:
On Apr 18, 8:42*pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:

Baka Dasai wrote:
On 17 Apr 2009 10:25:00 GMT, Baka Dasai said (and I quote):
As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

Is there no saddle that fits this description?

Check out the "E3" saddles from Perfomance & Nashbar. *The lighter one (ti
version) is firmer due to less padding I think. *Can usually find it on sale
for $40 or so.

Bill "I like it but(t) friends call it The Crippler" S.

Yes, the E3 is designed for perineal protection and has a flat
platform, but it is wayyyy narrower than a B17. *I have a lot of
trouble keeping my sit bones centered on an E3, with similar
difficulty on an Alias 130 or a Toupe 130. *I do fit well on a Toupe
143. *I don't have a B17 so I can't compare directly, but I do have an
Ideale 92 long frame (same dimensions as a B17), and it is too wide,
causing inner leg chafing.

Width matters.

I think I saw that E3 had come out with a wider version, but I haven't
seen it for sale.

I tried an E3 after riding B17s and like you, found it much too narrow.

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:56:10 +0000, Baka Dasai wrote:

On 17 Apr 2009 10:25:00 GMT, Baka Dasai said (and I quote):
As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide and
relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!

Is there no saddle that fits this description?

fasten a plank of wood across a seat tube.

Baka Dasai wrote:
:: As the subject says, I'm looking for a saddle that's firm, wide
:: and relatively flat (ie, not a rounded top). Also cheap!
::
:: I've been riding a Brooks B17 for the last 5 or 6 years and
:: want to experiment with something else. Brooks fit me quite
:: well when new, so something with a roughly similar shape
:: (but flatter) would be good.
::
:: Thanks!
:: --
:: What was I thinking?

First of all, you need to know how wide the distance is between your ischial
tuberosities. Take a piece of typewriter paper and sit on it on a curb.
Then go back into the house and measure the distance between the center of
the oval depressions on the paper. With this knowledge you can look at
saddles online because they will tell you how wide they are. For example, a
wide saddle is about 6 1/2" wide and a narrow one runs about 5 1/4" inches.

A relatively wide Terry saddle is the Liberator Y, I think it is called.
But, that website will tell you how wide all of them are.
http://www.terrybicycles.com/saddles...r-y-gel-saddle

Pat in TX

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:31:03 -0500, PatTX said (and I quote):
First of all, you need to know how wide the distance is between your ischial
tuberosities. Take a piece of typewriter paper and sit on it on a curb.
Then go back into the house and measure the distance between the center of
the oval depressions on the paper. With this knowledge you can look at
saddles online because they will tell you how wide they are. For example, a
wide saddle is about 6 1/2" wide and a narrow one runs about 5 1/4" inches.

Thanks for the info. My site bones are 4.5" apart. I guess the saddle
needs to be a bit wider than that so that my sit bones aren't right on
the edge where saddles usually slope away. Perhaps about 6" or 6.25"
would be right?
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What was I thinking?

Baka Dasai wrote:
:: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:31:03 -0500, PatTX said (and I quote):
::: First of all, you need to know how wide the distance is between
::: your ischial tuberosities. Take a piece of typewriter paper and sit
::: on it on a curb. Then go back into the house and measure the
::: distance between the center of the oval depressions on the paper.
::: With this knowledge you can look at saddles online because they
::: will tell you how wide they are. For example, a wide saddle is
::: about 6 1/2" wide and a narrow one runs about 5 1/4" inches.
::
:: Thanks for the info. My site bones are 4.5" apart. I guess the saddle
:: needs to be a bit wider than that so that my sit bones aren't right
:: on the edge where saddles usually slope away. Perhaps about 6" or
:: 6.25" would be right?
\
I doubt your sit bones are really that narrow. Take a look at the oval
scattering of impressions, draw a ring around it and find the middle (don't
take the closest measurements). The saddle width of, say 6.5 means your sit
bones are 6.5" apart. You don't have to try and buy something bigger than
your actual measurement. At my local bike shop, they have a memory foam pad
that people sit on (on a chair) and that shows the sit bones' width. Maybe
you should try that. I would be extremely surprised were your pelvis as
narrow as you wrote.

Pat in TX

BTW: how much do you weigh? Are you a skinny guy?

Pat